On 07/05/14 11:25, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
5. YOU go do it and keep this list informed about progress.
Henne
hi Henné oh oups ... I did write a mail this morning (following a good jasna idea ... the mentoring) - saying Marketing IS not saying : do it, do it, but first analysing how the community could be more attractive and I did 2 suggestions for the booth PS : marketing is not just sending booth material or saying : do, do, do, pictures, do news ... (ok I did send the video link to a 120000 ppl group, but this is not marketing for me, just a ponctual todo) regards ;-) Françoise On 06/05/14 21:52, Sarah Julia Kriesch wrote:
Yes. Communities need developers. I know, that I have got the wrong IT education for that (Computer Science Expert for System Integration).
Hi Sarah, I wouln't say "wrong" ... who knows ? A community is a "humans system", and each competency can be useless one day or another. But if nobody know what you studied, then it's a pity.
I have found interested software developers with experience in a LUG. One is registered as an Advocate. But he doesnt know, how he can become a linux developer. You can use the idea with mentoring by Jasna there.
you chose a perfect example : if he wish to become a developper, he'll just have to learn programmation bases for 2 to 4 years. No mentor will do this ... It would be a waste of time, a waste of energy, a waste of resources ... if he wish to integrate a linux community (sharing), then a mentor could tell him : that many communities need advocate competencies (for example Racketiciel in France - they help users to go to the justice when they were forced to buy a PC with windows for example all the linux groups and websites when they give interviews or write articles about open softs etc. to be careful on how things are written)
Most of them are very motivated. GSoC besides full-time job, part-time studying and community activities? How should I do that?
I do think it's not a question of quantity, but quality. What you wrote here is great ... As an example, you could meet an advocate or a journalist, and say here in the marketing liste : I met ... his/her profile is blabla ... would you have a suggestion how he/she could help openSUSE community ? For me, a mentor IS NOT a teacher or a training animator, but more a guide/resource
But who should become a mentor for a lot of interested software developers? They need some help to start, but you need enough people, who can do that.
Nobody ... or that person would be ++ pretentious and uncompetent (as in education, methematics teachers said : it's easy to write programs lol ... oups or around 1995, a lot of website were done by my cousin or a nephew ... great result !! ;-)) A mentor is not a teacher ... The mentor ask you (when you arrive in a community) what are your skills, motivation and your available time, for ex. He is just like an experience guide (on community process experience, on how to get an information = if I do not know, who can answer ?, on how to modelize success instead of trying to restart each time from 0) if you have never walked, he will not suggest you to climb fast the Everest, saying : "GO, JUST DO IT". So Stathis, yes I agree that community is not an enterprise and I agree too with "having fun", smiling, being just happy, and mostly being free (please no boss) but a community is a human system (not just a distribution) it's a balance challenge ... a challenge like : what can we do with the resources we already have inside the community ... I mean ... if a contributor, a developper, a user, an advocate or a designer, a teacher, a student does not feel welcome (or have fun), espacially in a non paid system, he will simply go next door, to another community. As simple as that ... For me, this is exactly marketing : being attractive sorry for the blabla ... It's not easy to explain in 3 lines ... and just one more : a card winner, is not the one who need great cards to win, but the one who can win even with bad cards (not only for poker). so finally ... openSUSE marketing (or other word Stathis), for me, would be : being attractive welcome any contributors (and mentoring) check openSUSE unused resources and of course writing quality articles and showing great pictures too, and talking around ... opening eyes and mind -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org