CJK-version of SuSE 8.0?

Gerhard Schuck

12 Apr 2002 12 Apr '02

04:30

Will there be a special CJK version of SuSE 8.0 (and will it be available in Japan?) or is it easier to use the "normal" version and just download all cjk related stuff? Gerhard Schuck geschu@ma5.seikyou.ne.jp

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Mike Fabian

12 Apr 12 Apr

10:19

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Gerhard Schuck writes:

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Will there be a special CJK version of SuSE 8.0

No, but the 'normal' version should be good enough for CJK. At least it should be improved again for CJK compared to all previous versions.

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(and will it be available in Japan?)

I don't know, it looks like there are still problems to make it available in Japan. I hope that these problems can be solved, but I don't know for sure.

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or is it easier to use the "normal" version and just download all cjk related stuff?

This time, the 'normal' version already contains more CJK related stuff than any previous 'normal' version of SuSE Linux. Because we wanted SuSE Linux 8.0 to comform to the LI18NUX2000 specification, see also http://www.suse.de/~mfabian/suse-cjk/li18nux-test.html we included basic support for all CJK languages into all SuSE Linux 8.0 CD sets. Even the German edition already contains the Korean XIM server Ami and the Chinese XIM server xcin this time. For Japanese, there is even more stuff included than for Korean or Chinese, it may be already enough for most users. At least some basic stuff is there for all CJK languages. It should be easy to download and install additional CJK related packages from the SuSE ftp server. There are 3 versions of SuSE Linux 8.0: - German - International-1 (USA, France, ...) - International-2 (Czechia, Hungary, ...) CJK support is quite good in all of them. But (as usual) International-2 contains a few more CJK packages (FreeWnn, nicolatter, jmode, anthy, chasen, kakasi, cjk-latex, cjk-lyx, eb, eblook, xjdic, gjiten, javadict, kanji-lookup, kanjipad, edict, jtools, nkf, are only on International-2). On top of that, International-2 already contains some fixes for Qt3 which are important for CJK which were unfortunately not yet included in the German and International-1 edition. I recommend that people interested in CJK using Qt3/KDE3 who have only the German or International-1 edition update to the improved Qt3 packages available here: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-devel-doc.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-devel-tools.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-devel-tutorial.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-devel.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-extensions.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-man.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-non-mt.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-static.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3.rpm -- Mike Fabian http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

Heinz-Josef Claes

24 Apr 24 Apr

10:43

New subject: [m17n] CJK-version of SuSE 8.0?

Am Fre, 2002-04-12 um 12.21 schrieb Mike Fabian:

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I recommend that people interested in CJK using Qt3/KDE3 who have only the German or International-1 edition update to the improved Qt3 packages available here:

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-devel-doc.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-devel-tools.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-devel-tutorial.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-devel.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-extensions.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-man.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-non-mt.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-static.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3.rpm

-- Mike Fabian http://www.suse.de/~mfabian

Hi, I managed one time to switch kde3 (SuSE8.0) to display the menues etc. in chinese after installing the above packages, but cannot reproduce it. The problem seems to be, that in "country & language", "Locale", "Add Language" I cannot choose chinese (after selecting "China" as Country). In the first installation I could do this (now only english and german). Does anybody have a hint how to solve the problem? I installed SuSE8.0 with full kde support, chinese and asian fonts and xcin. Best regards, Heinz-Josef Claes

Mike Fabian

10:54

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Heinz-Josef Claes writes:

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Am Fre, 2002-04-12 um 12.21 schrieb Mike Fabian:

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I recommend that people interested in CJK using Qt3/KDE3 who have only the German or International-1 edition update to the improved Qt3 packages available here:

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-devel-doc.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-devel-tools.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-devel-tutorial.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-devel.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-extensions.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-man.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-non-mt.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-static.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3.rpm

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I managed one time to switch kde3 (SuSE8.0) to display the menues etc. in chinese after installing the above packages, but cannot reproduce it. The problem seems to be, that in "country & language", "Locale", "Add Language" I cannot choose chinese (after selecting "China" as Country). In the first installation I could do this (now only english and german). Does anybody have a hint how to solve the problem?

I installed SuSE8.0 with full kde support, chinese and asian fonts and xcin.

If you cannot choose Chinese as the language in the KDE control centre, this usually means that the packages with the Chinese are not installed. They are available on all SuSE Linux 8.0 Professional CD sets: CD2/suse/kde3/kde3-i18n-zh_CN-3.0-2.noarch.rpm CD2/suse/kde3/kde3-i18n-zh_TW-3.0-2.noarch.rpm -- Mike Fabian http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

Heinz-Josef Claes

11:52

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Am Mit, 2002-04-24 um 12.56 schrieb Mike Fabian:

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Heinz-Josef Claes writes:

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Am Fre, 2002-04-12 um 12.21 schrieb Mike Fabian:

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I recommend that people interested in CJK using Qt3/KDE3 who have only the German or International-1 edition update to the improved Qt3 packages available here:

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-devel-doc.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-devel-tools.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-devel-tutorial.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-devel.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-extensions.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-man.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-non-mt.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3-static.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/8.0-i386/qt3.rpm

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I managed one time to switch kde3 (SuSE8.0) to display the menues etc. in chinese after installing the above packages, but cannot reproduce it. The problem seems to be, that in "country & language", "Locale", "Add Language" I cannot choose chinese (after selecting "China" as Country). In the first installation I could do this (now only english and german). Does anybody have a hint how to solve the problem?

I installed SuSE8.0 with full kde support, chinese and asian fonts and xcin.

If you cannot choose Chinese as the language in the KDE control centre, this usually means that the packages with the Chinese are not installed. They are available on all SuSE Linux 8.0 Professional CD sets:

CD2/suse/kde3/kde3-i18n-zh_CN-3.0-2.noarch.rpm CD2/suse/kde3/kde3-i18n-zh_TW-3.0-2.noarch.rpm

That's it. Thanks a lot. Another question: Is there a possibility to configure xcin with kde or do I have to do it manually? Regards, Heinz-Josef Claes

Mike Fabian

13:00

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Heinz-Josef Claes writes: [...]

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Another question: Is there a possibility to configure xcin with kde or do I have to do it manually?

If you start X11 with LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.Big5 or LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.GB2312 xcin will start automatically and XMODIFIERS will be set correctly. This is done by the script ~/.xim which is sourced from ~/.xinitrc. See also: http://www.suse.de/~mfabian/suse-cjk/automatic-xim-server-start.html If you start your X11 session with LC_CTYPE set to something non-Chinese, xcin will not start automatically by default. But you can change that easily if you want, it is explained here: http://www.suse.de/~mfabian/suse-cjk/xim-server-startup-custom.html i.e. if you want xcin to start always, even for values of LC_CTYPE not starting with zh_TW or zh_CN, you can edit the end of ~/.xim to look like this: [...] *) # all other languages # You may want to start an XIM server, even if you don't start # your X11-session in a language which usually needs an input server. # For example, some people may start their X11 session in English, because # they mostly use English, but nevertheless want to have a Chinese # input server running, because they also write Chinese texts. export XMODIFIERS="@im=xcin-zh_TW" LANG=zh_TW LC_ALL=zh_TW xcin & ;; esac -- Mike Fabian http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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