apel-xemacs is part of the xemacs-packages tarball and therefore I suggest to drop it. If we do that, please add a proper obsolete to xemacs-packages and we should drop the currently not applied disable-apel patch (don't know when it was disabled). Could somebody with sufficient authority do this in the openSUSE BuildService for Factory, please? I also fixed xemacs and xemacs-packages to build and submitted to the devel project. Please test and accept my changes and push them to openSUSE:Factory. Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126