Re: [opensuse-kernel] 2.6.23 kernel in OpenSUSE 10.3?
Jan Blunck
On Wed, Aug 01, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Joachim Deguara"
writes: Wow I never saw this repository. It is exactly what I was talking about above except for being in a separate repository. How is this made known to the public? There was no reference to it at opensuse.org that I could find. Perhaps it should go here http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories
Just seams if it is hidden, then there won't be much coverage either. I would think putting it in the default repository would be the way to get the most eyes to look at it even if it is not installed by default.
If somebody drafts a nice post, I'll publish it on news.opensuse.org ;-)
Should I announce this on kernel-packagers or a similar list. What do you think? Although this fits more in the responsibilities of the kernel teamleads.
Since I have not seen any announcement, what do you think of the following? I would put it on news.opensuse.org. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Testing the Current Upstream Kernel Andrew Morton has spoken at different occasions about testing of the Linux kernel and asked users to test the current development version and report their findings. For our openSUSE releases we have in general a frozen version and add only fixes for bugs that are encountered during testing - but stay with the same version for the lifetime of a release. With our openSUSE Build Service we build a daily kernel, where we take the current upstream development kernel without any patches (besides those we need for building a RPM). We do call this the vanilla kernel. It can be downloaded from: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/Vanilla/SUSE_Factory/ Btw. if you test the vanilla kernel, report any problems to the Linux kernel mailing list (for details check the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/) and not to the openSUSE bugzilla. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, aj@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Sun, Aug 12, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Since I have not seen any announcement, what do you think of the following? I would put it on news.opensuse.org.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Testing the Current Upstream Kernel
Andrew Morton has spoken at different occasions about testing of the Linux kernel and asked users to test the current development version and report their findings. For our openSUSE releases we have in general a frozen version and add only fixes for bugs that are encountered during testing - but stay with the same version for the lifetime of a release.
With our openSUSE Build Service we build a daily kernel, where we take the current upstream development kernel without any patches (besides those we need for building a RPM). We do call this the vanilla kernel. It can be downloaded from:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/Vanilla/SUSE_Factory/
Btw. if you test the vanilla kernel, report any problems to the Linux kernel mailing list (for details check the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/) and not to the openSUSE bugzilla.
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Nice text. I changed the syncing of the Kernel:Vanilla project so that it suits your text. Now the linux-2.6.git is synced every night (at 3am) to the buildservice. The package names include the commit id which should help with identify the affected commits faster. I'll post your text to LKML and opensuse-ml. Cheers, Jan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
I'll post your text to LKML and opensuse-ml.
How about mentioning udev update issues with older base distributions? -Andi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Aug 15, Andi Kleen wrote:
I'll post your text to LKML and opensuse-ml.
How about mentioning udev update issues with older base distributions?
The kernel only build for factory. Do you think we should provide all tools as well that old distributions might need? I don't think so. Although I can note that people might want to use Factory if they want to use the vanilla kernel. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 12:06:07PM +0200, Jan Blunck wrote:
On Wed, Aug 15, Andi Kleen wrote:
I'll post your text to LKML and opensuse-ml.
How about mentioning udev update issues with older base distributions?
The kernel only build for factory. Do you think we should provide all tools as well that old distributions might need? I don't think so.
I think it would be a good idea if it's not too much work. Often testing only a since unstable piece at a time makes sense and there will be likely more users willing to do this. Also in general a system with only updated kernel is likely more usable than a sometimes unstable full factory experience.
Although I can note that people might want to use Factory if they want to use the vanilla kernel.
Yes that would be also needed. -andi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Aug 15, Andi Kleen wrote:
I think it would be a good idea if it's not too much work. Often testing only a since unstable piece at a time makes sense and there will be likely more users willing to do this. Also in general a system with only updated kernel is likely more usable than a sometimes unstable full factory experience.
A few months ago Kay came up with the idea of having this in the openSUSE Base project. Maybe it is time to actually work on that project again. For now (since I don't have time atm) I'll leave it as is. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 12:22:31PM +0200, Jan Blunck wrote:
On Wed, Aug 15, Andi Kleen wrote:
I think it would be a good idea if it's not too much work. Often testing only a since unstable piece at a time makes sense and there will be likely more users willing to do this. Also in general a system with only updated kernel is likely more usable than a sometimes unstable full factory experience.
A few months ago Kay came up with the idea of having this in the openSUSE Base project. Maybe it is time to actually work on that project again.
For now (since I don't have time atm) I'll leave it as is.
Ok then at least document the dependencies. 10.2 udev seems to work at least. Just 10.1 and 10.0 are problematic with modular kernels. -Andi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+help@opensuse.org
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