On 02/01/2012 10:51 AM, Jiri Slaby wrote:
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Hello,
at SUSE, we are currently discussing the future of merging releases from -stable kernel tree[1] into SLE. There is a fear of regressions caused in the enterprise distribution as well as a fear of high patch count which in most cases cannot be reviewed properly with our power.
I would like to know your opinion about merging -stable kernels into *openSUSE*.
This means: * do you prefer to stay with the latest stable kernel released at the time an opensuse distro becomes available? (And then only single fixes for reported bugs are merged.) Or should be -stable releases incorporated as soon as they are out (or later). * Regarding the parentheses, would you prefer some time to pass before a -stable kernel is committed to a particular openSUSE kernel? * Did you hit some regression caused by stable releases (this is rather information for me personally). If so, how often?
Note that Kernel:stable (and Tumbleweed) will be *unaffected* by the result of this thread. It will still follow the latest stable upstream release as soon as possible.
Opinions welcome.
[1] The releases numbered by the third numbers after major release numbers, e.g. 3.2.1 or 3.2.2.
Jiri, Making this change would make little difference to me as I am usually running whatever kernel is current in wireless-testing. ATM, that means 3.3-rc1. The distro kernel is used only when installing, or on the odd occasion when my system gets messed up. It is certainly true that as a particular release nears EOL, that kernel is quite dated. In particular, there are a number of devices that are not supported, which forces the users to use work-arounds such as building their own kernels, or installing compat-wireless. I feel we should be able to do better. Installing a new stable kernel seems a good idea to me, but not with the 3.x.0 release. There are too many problems not detected by the hardware available to the -rcX testers, but by .2, these have mostly been detected and fixed. If the policy on kernels is changed, there should also be a change in zypper so that at least 2 kernels are kept. That way the user can always fall back to the one they were using. I posted your message on the o.o.n.announcements forum and I will send you a summary of any comments posted there. Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+owner@opensuse.org