On 02/01/2012 10:51 AM, Jiri Slaby wrote:
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at SUSE, we are currently discussing the future of merging releases
from -stable kernel tree into SLE. There is a fear of regressions
caused in the enterprise distribution as well as a fear of high patch
count which in most cases cannot be reviewed properly with our power.
I would like to know your opinion about merging -stable kernels into
* do you prefer to stay with the latest stable kernel released at the
time an opensuse distro becomes available? (And then only single fixes
for reported bugs are merged.) Or should be -stable releases
incorporated as soon as they are out (or later).
* Regarding the parentheses, would you prefer some time to pass before
a -stable kernel is committed to a particular openSUSE kernel?
* Did you hit some regression caused by stable releases (this is
rather information for me personally). If so, how often?
Note that Kernel:stable (and Tumbleweed) will be *unaffected* by the
result of this thread. It will still follow the latest stable upstream
release as soon as possible.
 The releases numbered by the third numbers after major release
numbers, e.g. 3.2.1 or 3.2.2.
Making this change would make little difference to me as I am usually running
whatever kernel is current in wireless-testing. ATM, that means 3.3-rc1. The
distro kernel is used only when installing, or on the odd occasion when my
system gets messed up.
It is certainly true that as a particular release nears EOL, that kernel is
quite dated. In particular, there are a number of devices that are not
supported, which forces the users to use work-arounds such as building their own
kernels, or installing compat-wireless. I feel we should be able to do better.
Installing a new stable kernel seems a good idea to me, but not with the 3.x.0
release. There are too many problems not detected by the hardware available to
the -rcX testers, but by .2, these have mostly been detected and fixed. If the
policy on kernels is changed, there should also be a change in zypper so that at
least 2 kernels are kept. That way the user can always fall back to the one they
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