At Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:17:12 +0100, Stephan Kulow wrote:
On 05.12.2013 14:06, Andrew Wafaa wrote:
On 5 December 2013 11:28, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
Hi,
Since 3.11.y maintenance was discontinued by Greg, Ubuntu took over it. It made me wonder: are we willing to continue 3.11.y for openSUSE 13.1 updates, just relying on Ubuntu? Or, can we just move on 3.12.y?
Has the precedence been set of changing version of the kernel after release, I don't remember it happening in the past? That aside, personally I would feel much happier using an upstream maintained kernel, so if that means moving to 3.12.y then so be it. I
That would also moving 12.2 to 3.4.72 and 12.3 to 3.10.22 - or are we only worried about 13.1 maintenance?
I think we can concentrate only on 13.1 maintenance at this point. The situation with 13.1 is somewhat new. Let's compare: - 3.4 kernel on openSUSE 12.2 is a long-time support kernel, and Greg still maintains it. We keep merging the upstream stable 3.4.y. - 3.7 kernel on openSUSE 12.3 is a discontinued one and no one actually maintains in the upstream. We (SUSE) eventually pick up fixes occasionally. Thus the code flux is fairly low; i.e. very little fixes have been done for 12.3 kernels. - 3.11 kernel on openSUSE 13.1 is the one already discontinued by the upstream, but Ubuntu continues to care and work on it. This makes a dilemma. Now, we have a few options: A. Don't update any longer base kernel, just pick up a few critical fixes. This is equivalent with what we did for openSUSE 12.3. B. Take Ubuntu 3.11.y stable updates. We'll get stable backports gratis, but hey, it's driven by them. C. Move up on 3.12.y and later kernel maintained by the upstream. This is basically a rolling update, and openSUSE 13.1 kernel will catch up openSUSE 13.2 kernel at some point. (Or, it'll stay at some long-time support kernel.) For me, the option C sounds most attractive. But, maybe I'm biased since I'm one of upstream kernel devs. Takashi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+owner@opensuse.org