On 11 January 2017 at 17:08, Takashi Iwai <tiwai(a)suse.de> wrote:
It'll be in a similar situation like Leap 42.1
which has 4.1.x-based
kernel. It's less pain than openSUSE 13.2, while its support status
is still far worse than Leap 42.2.
I'm not disagreeing with your point - I'd support any LTS kernel in
Leap rather than a non-LTS kernel.
But I have to share my very strong opinion that I do not consider all
LTS kernels as equal.
To be uncharacteristically undiplomatic, I favour SUSE/openSUSE
maintained LTS kernels above non-SUSE/openSUSE maintainers LTS
4.1 was an LTS kernel, but not used elsewhere by SUSE/openSUSE and so
relied purely on upstreams LTS support.
It was in no way manner or form nearly as well maintained, with solid
patches and backports for a long period of time, as 3.12 was (also
used by SLE 12) or I assume 4.4 will be (as also used by SLE 12 SP2).
From my perspective, the work our kernel maintainers do
on 'our' LTS
kernels (ie. those used by SLE) is orders of magnitude better
Even if this is a mistaken perception, there is no doubting that our
maintainers are a lot more aligned and proactive in resolving issues
that affect SUSE/openSUSE in the kernels they are actively maintaining
as part of their work on SLE.
One of the whole points of Leap is enabling the community to reap the
benefits of SUSE's Enterprise maintenance of its codebase. The kernel
is an important part of that and so I do not think we should dismiss
I think the use the SLE 12 SP2 kernel is the option that brings the
most benefit for the longest period of time to Leap 42.3 users.
I realise that it _might_ disenfranchise some potential new hardware
adopters, but in the case of 42.3 we know the kernel will have
backports for stuff like Kaby Lake and AMDGPU.
If that is not good enough we have the relatively close arrival of
43.0 to mitigate the issue, in addition to the existing mitigations of
'Tumbleweed' and the kernel_stable OBS repo.
The more I think about it, the more I do not think its sensible to
diverge 42.3's kernel from the SLE 12 SP3 one.
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