On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Will Stephenson wrote:

On Thursday 30 Aug 2012 15:27:18 Dirk Müller wrote:

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KDE:Distro:Factory is now open for some KDE 4.9 merging fun. Anyone interested in helping with that?

Yes, I'll be able to work on that next week.

Please hold off on this. I want to get 4.9.1 in first. There are a lot of fixed backported from 4.9.1 that will need to be removed, so I think it is better to do that before merging rather than after, so we don't have to keep rebuilding it. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On 04/09/12 01:14, Will Stephenson wrote:

On Monday 03 Sep 2012 08:40:27 todd rme wrote:

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On Thursday 30 Aug 2012 15:27:18 Dirk M�ller wrote:

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KDE:Distro:Factory is now open for some KDE 4.9 merging fun. Anyone interested in helping with that? Yes, I'll be able to work on that next week. Please hold off on this. I want to get 4.9.1 in first. There are a lot of fixed backported from 4.9.1 that will need to be removed, so I

On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Will Stephenson wrote: think it is better to do that before merging rather than after, so we don't have to keep rebuilding it.

How are you getting on with updating to 4.9.1 in KR49?

Dirk has a scripts to update KDF to the latest tarballs, so if updating is taking a while, another option would be to copy KR49 to KDF now, make KR49 into links and do the version bump in KDF.

Will

Will, in about 1/2 hour instead of going to a warm bed (it's 0125 hours here) I am going to begin a 'dup --from.." this repo: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/49/openSUSE_12.2/ to get KDE 4.9. Is this repo the correct one to get KDE 4.9? (all this talk about "KR49 to KDF' etc is confusing the hell out of me :-( . BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.8.4 & kernel 3.5.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Am Montag, 3. September 2012, 18:05:19 schrieb Freek de Kruijf:

I am confused. The subject is about KDE:Distro:Stable, so KDS. The message is about KDF (KDE:Distro:Factory). So what are we talking about?

As the first email in thread states, the content of KDF was moved to KDS. So now KDF is open for a more recent KDE version, i.e. KDE 4.9 which is currently only available in KR49. Thus the content of KR49 will be moved to KDF. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Monday 03 Sep 2012 17:14:27 Will Stephenson wrote:

On Monday 03 Sep 2012 08:40:27 todd rme wrote:

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On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Will Stephenson

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On Thursday 30 Aug 2012 15:27:18 Dirk Müller wrote:

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KDE:Distro:Factory is now open for some KDE 4.9 merging fun. Anyone interested in helping with that?

Yes, I'll be able to work on that next week.

Please hold off on this. I want to get 4.9.1 in first. There are a lot of fixed backported from 4.9.1 that will need to be removed, so I think it is better to do that before merging rather than after, so we don't have to keep rebuilding it.

How are you getting on with updating to 4.9.1 in KR49?

I don't know what todd has done so far, but I don't see any changes in the 49 repo - at least it finally published a working snapshot for all distros before the next build cycle ;)

Dirk has a scripts to update KDF to the latest tarballs

I don't have access to the final packages neither do I have a script to update them. Todd did so manually last time which is a lot of unnecessary work if there are scripts for this somewhere. I would have written some myself before attempting to update all packages manually - these script should be uploaded to OBS (e.g. into the kdebase4 package?) or somewhere else.

if updating is taking a while, another option would be to copy KR49 to KDF now, make KR49 into links and do the version bump in KDF.

I'd second that but in the end it doesn't matter which repo is updated first - only make sure only one repo is building at the same time in order to keep the build time for a complete 4.9.1 as short as possible. So after e.g. making KR49 into (fixed) links, it could temporarily set to build disabled until KDF finishes building 4.9.1 Nico -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Will Stephenson wrote:

On Monday 03 Sep 2012 08:40:27 todd rme wrote:

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On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Will Stephenson wrote:

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On Thursday 30 Aug 2012 15:27:18 Dirk Müller wrote:

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KDE:Distro:Factory is now open for some KDE 4.9 merging fun. Anyone interested in helping with that?

Yes, I'll be able to work on that next week.

Please hold off on this. I want to get 4.9.1 in first. There are a lot of fixed backported from 4.9.1 that will need to be removed, so I think it is better to do that before merging rather than after, so we don't have to keep rebuilding it.

another option would be to copy KR49 to KDF now, make KR49 into links and do the version bump in KDF.

Will

The problem is I don't have write access to KDF, while I do to KR49, so on KR49 I can get the updating done right away, while with KDF I have to wait for someone else to approve the update to 4.9, then wait again for someone to approve the update to 4.9.1. If someone can give me access to KDF I could do it there. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Am Dienstag, 4. September 2012, 11:33:25 schrieb todd rme:

4.9.1 has been submitted to KR49.

Great! Could you please disable publishing for Extra + KR49? Otherwise people will run into dependency issues when updating to packages built against 4.9.1 before 4.9.1 has been published. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 5:08 PM, todd rme wrote:

On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Sven Burmeister wrote:

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Am Dienstag, 4. September 2012, 11:33:25 schrieb todd rme:

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4.9.1 has been submitted to KR49.

Great!

Could you please disable publishing for Extra + KR49? Otherwise people will run into dependency issues when updating to packages built against 4.9.1 before 4.9.1 has been published.

Done, for KUPlayground also.

-Todd

KDE SC 4.9 is officially released, so I am re-enabling publishing for all repos. If possible, please keep KDF as-is and don't make any changes to KR49 unless it fixes a build failure until the initial build is published. Thanks. Once publishing is complete I will begin submitting to KDF, then we can begin making improvements in KDF. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Dirk Müller wrote:

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KDE SC 4.9 is officially released, so I am re-enabling publishing for all repos. If possible, please keep KDF as-is and don't make any changes to KR49 unless it fixes a build failure until the initial build is published. Thanks. Once publishing is complete I will begin submitting to KDF, then we can begin making improvements in KDF.

Hi,

since KR49 has published, I've started to look at your KDE 4.9.1 work (thanks a ton for that!) and handpick it into KDF.

work in progress, publishing is disabled for KDF.

Greetings, Dirk

Why has building in KR49 been disable? 4.9.1 has not been published there yet. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Am Mittwoch, 5. September 2012, 17:48:33 schrieb todd rme:

Why has building in KR49 been disable? 4.9.1 has not been published there yet.

Just re-enable it . And I hope Dirk talks to the obs staff to get increased build priority for KR49 and minimise the impact of his mistake. KR49 was close to being finished for 12.1 and now we have yet another delay! Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 05 Sep 2012 18:14:36 Sven Burmeister wrote:

Am Mittwoch, 5. September 2012, 18:08:10 schrieb Nico Kruber:

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Why has building in KR49 been disable? 4.9.1 has not been published there yet.

I thought so, too, but apparently it was published - I can confirm this at least for openSUSE 12.1, x86_64

There are a lot of 4.9.0 packages for 12.2 in the repos mixed with 4.9.1 packages. So why not simply let it finish building for all distro versions before changing anything in the repo config?

yes, that was the idea, I think - Dirk just started too early... it's too late now anyway, KDF already build 4.9.1 packages

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/49/openSUSE_12.2/i58 6/

re-enabling KR49 now would burden the OBS with twice as many build jobs (KR49+KDF! -> so, now the only thing we can do is wait for KDF to finish and use 4.9.1 from there (or wait until KR49 is set up + build + published again) Nico -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 05 Sep 2012 15:54:01 Dirk Müller wrote:

since KR49 has published, I've started to look at your KDE 4.9.1 work (thanks a ton for that!) and handpick it into KDF.

Following up on our discussion on IRC (I had to leave for home): Did you figure out what caused the current part-published state of KR49? It seems that all kdeartwork4, kdenetwork4, kdesdk4, fka-kdeedu packages, kdetoys4 are still at 4.9.0, since over an hour. The last builds succeeded, but I don't know if these were 4.9.0 builds. Build is now globally disabled for KR49 - would this prevent publishing from completing, eg if you disabled build before the publish had completed? We should get KR49 completely published as a priority before getting 4.9 into KDF: it's been promised all over the internet today to the hungry hordes downloading 12.2. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Board, Booster, KDE Developer SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 05 Sep 2012 20:14:45 Nico Kruber wrote:

On Wednesday 05 Sep 2012 18:33:28 Sven Burmeister wrote:

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Am Mittwoch, 5. September 2012, 18:22:34 schrieb Nico Kruber:

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re-enabling KR49 now would burden the OBS with twice as many build jobs (KR49+KDF! -> so, now the only thing we can do is wait for KDF to finish and use 4.9.1 from there (or wait until KR49 is set up + build + published again)

If one links the packages from KDF to KR49, after they finished building in KDF within a few days, they will have to be built again, won't they. This would take even more days until KR49 gets to where it would be if it was not interrupted.

yes - but KDF will have 4.9.1 then...

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So why should KR49 suffer? I'd say stop KDF and re-enable KR49. If KR49 is finished completely KDF can do whatever it wants as long as it does not have any negative impact on KR49.

that would be another option - however, I think, KR49 will need a complete rebuild now (after the packages have been re-linked to KDF) while KDF has already built some packages and I'd guess, KDF is thus ready earlier

personally, I don't mind which repo has 4.9.1 first - I'll happily switch :)

I wouldn't mind an increased build priority though ;)

I checked earlier today, it already has high priority. I've stopped KDF build to save cycles and prevent changes there from triggering KR49 rebuilds. KR49 build has been reenabled (not by me) and seems to have picked up building the packages that were not published as 4.9.1, so I conclude that build was disabled before KR49 had built through, enabling a publish of the partial results that we see in the repos. Dirk, please allow KR49 to complete and publish 12.1 and 12.2 before starting work in KDF again; it's clear that we should have a published 4.9.1 first. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Board, Booster, KDE Developer SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 05 Sep 2012 21:25:06 you wrote:

On Wednesday 05 September 2012, Will Stephenson wrote:

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I've stopped KDF build to save cycles and prevent changes there from triggering KR49 rebuilds.

Hi Will,

sorry, but disabling build will not fix anything for KR49. for some reason the rebuild flags were set incorrectly on KR49, which caused the incorrect publishing, and I didn't catch it early enough.

Ok. Is this rebuild=direct? Adrian suggested we use it to speed up rebuilds. If this is the problem then we can document that it needs to be reset before a version bump.

I'm fixing it up now manually, please stop manipulating the build repositories until it is cleaned up.

*hands off the wheel* :)

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Dirk, please allow KR49 to complete and publish 12.1 and 12.2 before starting work in KDF again; it's clear that we should have a published 4.9.1 first.

The work on KDF has nothing to do with KR49. I'll fixup the missing packages in KR49 and will continue working on KDF like announced.

I'm not sure that everything in KR49 actually has a fixed _link to its counterpart in KDF, so work in KDF could trigger an immediate rebuild without publishing in KR49. Correct me if I'm wrong. I just don't want the work Todd and Nico have invested over the last couple of days to meet users' expectations to have a delayed result. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Board, Booster, KDE Developer SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

I was looking in YaST earlier today for something and saw that I have a mixture of KDE 4.9 and KDE 4.9.1 files on my system. Now I read this.

How is this mixture of this and that going to affect the stability of my system?

Usually it shouldn't affect the stability in a negative way. Some of your packages don't have the 4.9.1 bugfixes. That's all. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

Am Donnerstag, 6. September 2012, 13:35:06 schrieb Dirk Müller:

the publishing was incomplete, fixed now. All packages are on 4.9.1 level for 12.1 and 12.2 in KDE:Release:49.

Thanks! Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On 06/09/12 02:22, Nico Kruber wrote:

On Wednesday 05 Sep 2012 18:14:36 Sven Burmeister wrote:

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Why has building in KR49 been disable? 4.9.1 has not been published there yet. I thought so, too, but apparently it was published - I can confirm this at least for openSUSE 12.1, x86_64 There are a lot of 4.9.0 packages for 12.2 in the repos mixed with 4.9.1

Am Mittwoch, 5. September 2012, 18:08:10 schrieb Nico Kruber: packages. So why not simply let it finish building for all distro versions before changing anything in the repo config? yes, that was the idea, I think - Dirk just started too early... it's too late now anyway, KDF already build 4.9.1 packages

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http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/49/openSUSE_12.2/i58 6/ re-enabling KR49 now would burden the OBS with twice as many build jobs (KR49+KDF! -> so, now the only thing we can do is wait for KDF to finish and use 4.9.1 from there (or wait until KR49 is set up + build + published again)

Nico

I was looking in YaST earlier today for something and saw that I have a mixture of KDE 4.9 and KDE 4.9.1 files on my system. Now I read this. How is this mixture of this and that going to affect the stability of my system? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.0 & kernel 3.5.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org