[opensuse-kde] KDE:KDE4:* Repository Changes, Step 2
Hello, the KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop repositories now contain KDE 4.2 development snapshot (4.1.87) packages. This is also the repository that will contain KDE 4.2 RC1, KDE 4.2 and first bugfixes releases of KDE 4.2 in near future. If you have been using KDE:KDE4:UNSTABLE:* repositories the last weeks you likely want to change them to KDE:KDE4:Factory:* + corresp. Community NOW! The next packages that will appear in the KDE:KDE4:UNSTABLE:* repositories will be snapshots from trunk representing very early KDE 4.3 development. Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
I'm trying update KDE from Factory in YaST, but it resolves install many gnome packages: evolution-data-server gnome2-user-docs gnome-audio gnome-control-center gnome-desktop gnome-main-menu gnome-menus gnome-menus-branding-openSUSE gnome-panel gnome-settings-daemon gnome-themes libcanberra0 libcanberra-gtk libcanberra-gtk0 libevoldap-2_4.2 libgnome-desktop-2.7 libgnomekbd libgnome-menu2 libgnomesu libgnomesu0 libgtop libgtop-2_0.7 libgweather libgweather1 nautilus PolicyKit-gnome-libs tango-icon-theme yast2-control-center-gnome I have added the following repos: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSU... http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Extra-Apps/ope... http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.1... and Packman, 11.1 updates, OSS and non-OSS for openSUSE 11.1. What happens? 2009/1/11 Stephan Binner <stbinner@suse.de>
Hello,
the KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop repositories now contain KDE 4.2 development snapshot (4.1.87) packages. This is also the repository that will contain KDE 4.2 RC1, KDE 4.2 and first bugfixes releases of KDE 4.2 in near future.
If you have been using KDE:KDE4:UNSTABLE:* repositories the last weeks you likely want to change them to KDE:KDE4:Factory:* + corresp. Community NOW!
The next packages that will appear in the KDE:KDE4:UNSTABLE:* repositories will be snapshots from trunk representing very early KDE 4.3 development.
Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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On Sunday, 11. January 2009 20:48:54 Alfredo Amaya wrote:
I'm trying update KDE from Factory in YaST, but it resolves install many gnome packages:
And this doesn't happen without enabled KDE:KDE4:* repositories!?
What happens?
No idea, about what does it complain if you lock those packages? Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Monday, 12. January 2009 09:40:32 Stephan Binner wrote:
What happens? No idea, about what does it complain if you lock those packages?
Here is my theory: there is a conflict between the KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop & compiz-kde4 and you selected to deinstall it which triggered the selection of compiz-gnome to fulfill the compiz-window-decorator requirement of compiz. So either deinstall compiz*, install compiz-kde instead, ignore dependencies of compiz-kde4, ... Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Contrary to Microsoft Corporation, we should be knowing what we are doing... Now what's up you guys ? Do we pull it thru in a clean way with 4.2 or do we switch to Ubuntu ? JPA On Monday 12 January 2009 10:40, Stephan Binner wrote:
On Monday, 12. January 2009 09:40:32 Stephan Binner wrote:
What happens?
No idea, about what does it complain if you lock those packages?
Here is my theory: there is a conflict between the KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop & compiz-kde4 and you selected to deinstall it which triggered the selection of compiz-gnome to fulfill the compiz-window-decorator requirement of compiz.
So either deinstall compiz*, install compiz-kde instead, ignore dependencies of compiz-kde4, ...
Bye, Steve
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Am Montag, 12. Januar 2009 13:09:16 schrieb Abgottspon Jean-Pierre:
Contrary to Microsoft Corporation, we should be knowing what we are doing... Now what's up you guys ? Do we pull it thru in a clean way with 4.2 or do we switch to Ubuntu ?
How does this relate to an assumed dependency issue of compiz? And who is "we"? Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 11. Januar 2009 schrieb Stephan Binner:
Hello,
the KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop repositories now contain KDE 4.2 development snapshot (4.1.87) packages. This is also the repository that will contain KDE 4.2 RC1, KDE 4.2 and first bugfixes releases of KDE 4.2 in near future.
If you have been using KDE:KDE4:UNSTABLE:* repositories the last weeks you likely want to change them to KDE:KDE4:Factory:* + corresp. Community NOW!
The next packages that will appear in the KDE:KDE4:UNSTABLE:* repositories will be snapshots from trunk representing very early KDE 4.3 development.
Just switched back from UNSTABLE to Factory and run a update. There are still a few packages remaining where UNSTABLE provided newer versions than Factory now. Should I downgrade them manually to get a clean installation ? Or just wait for the next Factory update ? The packages are: Unstable Factory automoc4 0.9.87-23.39 0.9.87-20.8 google-gadgets 0.10.4.svn-21.1 0.10.4.svn-1.2 libical0 0.42-8.1 0.42-3.1 libmsn0_1 3.9.91-2.2 3.9.91-1.1 PolicyKit-kde 0.2-21.18 0.2-20.12 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday, 11. January 2009 21:44:16 Markus Koßmann wrote:
There are still a few packages remaining where UNSTABLE provided newer versions than Factory now. Should I downgrade them manually to get a clean
Build revisions, not versions. I don't see hoo this could cause trouble atm. Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hello,
the KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop repositories now contain KDE 4.2 development snapshot (4.1.87) packages. This is also the repository that will contain KDE 4.2 RC1, KDE 4.2 and first bugfixes releases of KDE 4.2 in near future.
If I may ask, what is the purpose of KDE4:/STABLE ? Will it in the future offer newer KDE 4.1.x packages like 4.1.4? If I want a reasonably stable desktop, but newer than KDE 4.1.3 that comes with openSUSE 11.1, what repo do you recommend? Regards Malte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hey, KDE 4.2 is reasonably stable, but I recommend sticking to 4.1.3 till the release of 4.2 at the end of january. KDE 4.1.4 won't be packaged into stable as far as I know, to keep 4.1.3 just with critical bug fixes and focus on 4.2. (4.1.4 doesn't bring anything exiting anyways as far as I heard, see 4.1.3 changelog) The KDE:KDE4:Factory repo now contains 4.2 as mentioned by Stephan Binner, they will stay there and get updated till it is sure 4.3 will go into opensuse 11.2 and is atleast deemed solid. It is not decided yet what to do with 4.2 after this step has been taken. If you decide to switch to KDE:KDE4:Factory keep an eye on the mailinglist and/or blogposts to be notified about new repository changes. Regards, Karsten Am Montag 12 Januar 2009 23:41:18 schrieb Malte Gell:
Hello,
the KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop repositories now contain KDE 4.2 development snapshot (4.1.87) packages. This is also the repository that will contain KDE 4.2 RC1, KDE 4.2 and first bugfixes releases of KDE 4.2 in near future.
If I may ask, what is the purpose of KDE4:/STABLE ? Will it in the future offer newer KDE 4.1.x packages like 4.1.4? If I want a reasonably stable desktop, but newer than KDE 4.1.3 that comes with openSUSE 11.1, what repo do you recommend?
Regards Malte
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Am Montag, 12. Januar 2009 23:41:18 schrieb Malte Gell:
Hello,
the KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop repositories now contain KDE 4.2 development snapshot (4.1.87) packages. This is also the repository that will contain KDE 4.2 RC1, KDE 4.2 and first bugfixes releases of KDE 4.2 in near future.
If I may ask, what is the purpose of KDE4:/STABLE ? Will it in the future offer newer KDE 4.1.x packages like 4.1.4? If I want a reasonably stable desktop, but newer than KDE 4.1.3 that comes with openSUSE 11.1, what repo do you recommend?
Stable refers to opensuse, it contains the KDE version that the last stable opensuse release shipped. So currently it is 4.1.3, since 11.1 shipped that version and it will not change. It will only get security patches and maybe for some really grave bugs, if there are any. openSUSE never supplied a new version via YOU and STABLE is basically 11.1+YOU updates. If KDE 4.1 suits you, do not use any repo, but stick with the packages shipped with 11.1. If you want new features, you would not be interested in another KDE 4.1 version anyway, hence use the Factory: repo, which contains KDE 4.2. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Stable refers to opensuse, it contains the KDE version that the last stable opensuse release shipped. So currently it is 4.1.3, since 11.1 shipped that version and it will not change.
Ok
It will only get security patches and maybe for some really grave bugs, if there are any. openSUSE never supplied a new version via YOU and STABLE is basically 11.1+YOU updates.
I don't fully agree, STABLE has KDE 4.1.3 "release 69.2" whereas openSUSE 11.1 came with KDE 4.1.3 "release 4.9". So they seem to fix/update things in STABLE beyond YOU, what they do not fix/update with the shipped openSUSE version... I just upgraded from "release 4.9" of openSuSE 11.1 to "release 69.2"
If KDE 4.1 suits you, do not use any repo, but stick with the packages shipped with 11.1. If you want new features, you would not be interested in another KDE 4.1 version anyway, hence use the Factory: repo, which contains KDE 4.2.
Yes, I'm especially interested in the new Kopete version of KDE 4.2 since it fixes some things that affect me, so I'll give it a try. I hope KDE:Factory won't be too broken (if at all...) Malte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, 13. January 2009 00:33:50 Malte Gell wrote:
11.1 came with KDE 4.1.3 "release 4.9". So they seem to fix/update things in STABLE beyond YOU, what they do not fix/update with the shipped openSUSE
s/beyond/before/ :-) Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2009 00:33:50 schrieb Malte Gell:
I don't fully agree, STABLE has KDE 4.1.3 "release 69.2" whereas openSUSE 11.1 came with KDE 4.1.3 "release 4.9". So they seem to fix/update things in STABLE beyond YOU, what they do not fix/update with the shipped openSUSE version... I just upgraded from "release 4.9" of openSuSE 11.1 to "release 69.2"
They test it in STABLE before publishing the fix via YOU. So thanks for testing and reporting. :) Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2009 00:33:50 schrieb Malte Gell:
I don't fully agree, STABLE has KDE 4.1.3 "release 69.2" whereas openSUSE 11.1 came with KDE 4.1.3 "release 4.9". So they seem to fix/update things in STABLE beyond YOU, what they do not fix/update with the shipped openSUSE version... I just upgraded from "release 4.9" of openSuSE 11.1 to "release 69.2"
They test it in STABLE before publishing the fix via YOU. So thanks for testing and reporting. :)
Highly interesting ;-) If there will be newer versions like KDE 4.1.4 available in STABLE? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Onsdag 14 januar 2009 00:26:56 skrev Malte Gell:
Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2009 00:33:50 schrieb Malte Gell:
I don't fully agree, STABLE has KDE 4.1.3 "release 69.2" whereas openSUSE 11.1 came with KDE 4.1.3 "release 4.9". So they seem to fix/update things in STABLE beyond YOU, what they do not fix/update with the shipped openSUSE version... I just upgraded from "release 4.9" of openSuSE 11.1 to "release 69.2"
They test it in STABLE before publishing the fix via YOU. So thanks for testing and reporting. :)
Highly interesting ;-) If there will be newer versions like KDE 4.1.4 available in STABLE?
You don't have very good memory do you? ;-) I answered the exact same question for you, only two weeks ago. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2008-12/msg00095.html http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2009-01/msg00047.html http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2009-01/msg00056.html http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2009-01/msg00058.html There won't be 4.1.4 packages - but there might be important bugfixes "backported" to 4.1.3. Would you seriously prefer 4.1.4 over 4.2 if you're going to run unsupported packages anyway? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Onsdag 14 januar 2009 00:26:56 skrev Malte Gell:
Highly interesting ;-) If there will be newer versions like KDE 4.1.4 available in STABLE?
You don't have very good memory do you? ;-) I answered the exact same question for you, only two weeks ago.
Actually I don't ...
(...) Would you seriously prefer 4.1.4 over 4.2 if you're going to run unsupported packages anyway?
Well, I'd use anything that is in the STABLE tree if it is newer than 4.1.3 ;-) but you're right 4.2 has surely many bug fixes so it might be wiser to use this anyway. Newer does not necessarily mean more unstable ;-) Malte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday, 11. January 2009 20:13:58 Stephan Binner wrote:
The next packages that will appear in the KDE:KDE4:UNSTABLE:* repositories will be snapshots from trunk representing very early KDE 4.3 development.
KDE:KDE4:UNSTABLE:Desktop now contains KDE 4.2.60 packages from KDE trunk. Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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