[opensuse-kde] Kmail deletes Mail from Mailserver and don't download them!!!
Hi folks, I've a strange problem using Kmail 1.9.1 distributed with SuSE 10.1 (Open SuSE). Sometimes, not always, if I try to download Emails from my pop3-Server, the Emails are deleted on the server side by my kmail client, and don't downlaod the Emails. I could check this via a webmail interface which enables access to my mailbox at the server. Before downloading the Emails, the my servers mailbox is full of emails, after I try to dowmlaod them, my servers mailbox is empty, and kmail says only: "no new mails available" This "feature" is really not fine. Right now I am not able to find something like a reason for this error. For me it only occurs, and I can't see under which condition it occurs... My first assumption was, it has something to do with kwallet, so I switchted it off. Afterwards the error doesn't occur as often as before, but it still occurs. Has anyone any idea what might be the reason, and I how I can get rid of this problem? This is really an error, which can lead to another mail client tool, e.g. as mutt... Cheers Alexander --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hi folks,
I've a strange problem using Kmail 1.9.1 distributed with SuSE 10.1 (Open SuSE). Sometimes, not always, if I try to download Emails from my pop3-Server, the Emails are deleted on the server side by my kmail client, and don't downlaod the Emails.
I could check this via a webmail interface which enables access to my mailbox at the server. Before downloading the Emails, the my servers mailbox is full of emails, after I try to dowmlaod them, my servers mailbox is empty, and kmail says only: "no new mails available"
This "feature" is really not fine. Right now I am not able to find something like a reason for this error. For me it only occurs, and I can't see under which condition it occurs... My first assumption was, it has something to do with kwallet, so I switchted it off. Afterwards the error doesn't occur as often as before, but it still occurs.
Has anyone any idea what might be the reason, and I how I can get rid of this problem? This is really an error, which can lead to another mail client tool, e.g. as mutt...
Cheers
Alexander
--------------------------------------------------------------------- Alex, Have you tried another email client to test this? It could be a problem on the server end, rather than yours, if it just started. Have you
On Monday 08 January 2007 09:40, alexander.beck-ratzka wrote: tried renaming your kmail directory or it's config file so a new one is created to test if your configuration has gone to the dark side? I always wondered if kmail had a feature such as this. I used a mailer on the Amiga that I could look at the headers of each mail before downloading or deleting on the server. It was very handy. bye, Lee --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 08 January 2007 16:43, BandiPat wrote:
On Monday 08 January 2007 09:40, alexander.beck-ratzka wrote:
Hi folks,
I've a strange problem using Kmail 1.9.1 distributed with SuSE 10.1 (Open SuSE). Sometimes, not always, if I try to download Emails from my pop3-Server, the Emails are deleted on the server side by my kmail client, and don't downlaod the Emails.
I could check this via a webmail interface which enables access to my mailbox at the server. Before downloading the Emails, the my servers mailbox is full of emails, after I try to dowmlaod them, my servers mailbox is empty, and kmail says only: "no new mails available"
This "feature" is really not fine. Right now I am not able to find something like a reason for this error. For me it only occurs, and I can't see under which condition it occurs... My first assumption was, it has something to do with kwallet, so I switchted it off. Afterwards the error doesn't occur as often as before, but it still occurs.
Has anyone any idea what might be the reason, and I how I can get rid of this problem? This is really an error, which can lead to another mail client tool, e.g. as mutt...
Cheers
Alexander
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Alex, Have you tried another email client to test this? It could be a problem on the server end, rather than yours, if it just started.
I've tested Mozilla Thunderbird, and this "deletion" never occurs; but I am not so happy with Thunderbird, I would prefer Kmail. After that I've asked the admin of my provider, and he found out of the protocols that my client was it, which forced the deletion oy my emails at the server side. However, I never saw this protocol :-( As I already told it, the behaviour is like this: I look via a web-browser to the webmail interface of my provider, and I can find there new emails for me. Then (immediately!!!) I try to download those Emails with Kmail, and after 10 seconds or so, Kmail finishes the download with the message: "No new emails...". Reloading the webpage with the webmail interface approve this: there are no longer any emails in my mailbox on the server side... and alos no emails in my local inbox.
Have you tried renaming your kmail directory or it's config file so a new one is created to test if your configuration has gone to the dark side?
Why do you suggest this? Any background informations would be fine, because I like to understand what configuration failures (and I assume this "bug" is caused by a buggy configuration) might cause such an behauviour.
I always wondered if kmail had a feature such as this. I used a mailer on the Amiga that I could look at the headers of each mail before downloading or deleting on the server. It was very handy.
Again, some more infos to that... Cheers Alexander --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
* alexander.beck-ratzka <alexander.beck-ratzka@aei.mpg.de> [01-09-07 02:45]: [...]
As I already told it, the behaviour is like this: I look via a web-browser to the webmail interface of my provider, and I can find there new emails for me. Then (immediately!!!) I try to download those Emails with Kmail, and after 10 seconds or so, Kmail finishes the download with the message: "No new emails...". Reloading the webpage with the webmail interface approve this: there are no longer any emails in my mailbox on the server side... and alos no emails in my local inbox.
Maybe... sounds like t-bird is leaving mail marked as 'read' and kmail is *only* dl'ing 'new' mail. There is a difference. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 14:31, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* alexander.beck-ratzka <alexander.beck-ratzka@aei.mpg.de> [01-09-07 02:45]: [...]
As I already told it, the behaviour is like this: I look via a web-browser to the webmail interface of my provider, and I can find there new emails for me. Then (immediately!!!) I try to download those Emails with Kmail, and after 10 seconds or so, Kmail finishes the download with the message: "No new emails...". Reloading the webpage with the webmail interface approve this: there are no longer any emails in my mailbox on the server side... and alos no emails in my local inbox.
Maybe... sounds like t-bird is leaving mail marked as 'read' and kmail is *only* dl'ing 'new' mail. There is a difference.
No, Thunderbird loads the Email properly from the remote POP3-Server into the local inbox. Kmail instead also downloads the Emails from the remote POP3-Server into the local inbox, but sometimes it doesn't download, but deletes them ON THE REMOTE POP3 SERVER SIDE!!! I've a 56 K Microlink modem, so the downlaod always takes some time. In case of a delete, the runtime of the downlaod is much shorter so that the only possiiblity is the delete on the server side. Kmail triggers this delete, and I believe this is due to my config settings. However, what kind of settings might cause this? Cheers Alexander --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On 9.1.2007 16:18, alexander.beck-ratzka wrote:
Kmail triggers this delete, and I believe this is due to my config settings. However, what kind of settings might cause this?
A POP filter. See if you have any and check what is their filter Actions. Also try experimenting with the "Always show matched 'Download Later'..." option. -- Blade hails you... Old love lies deep you said --Nightwish
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 15:18, alexander.beck-ratzka wrote:
Kmail triggers this delete, and I believe this is due to my config settings. However, what kind of settings might cause this?
Cheers
Alexander
Hello Alexander, In KMail Settings/Configure KMail, you select accounts from left pane, select an account and press modify button. On the following display there is a box that say "Leave fetched messages on the server". On my main system this box is not selected and on my other computers the box is checked sothat i can obtain a mail first in an other system but it is still available on the server for my main system -- Regards, Frans Leerink --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hello list. After starting kaffeine as non-root by either KDE's menue, or clicking on a movie file, or calling it in a box the harddisk shows some action, but kaffeine doesn't come up. It works well as root, and kaffeine-check as non-root finds "all is good". Renaming kaffeinrc in .kde/share/config/ has no effect, no new rc file is created. Any hints about further diagnostics and debugging? All the best, gerhard -- / ******************************************************* / * Gerhard Schmidt, Huegelstr.1, D-64319 Pfungstadt * / * http://www.dg4fac.de, eMail: gerd@dg4fac.de * / * Tel. +49-(0)6157-801615, Mobil: +49-(0)175-183 4118 * / ******************************************************* --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hi Gerhard! On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:58:39 +0100 Gerhard Schmidt <gerd@dg4fac.de> wrote:
Any hints about further diagnostics and debugging?
Start kaffeine from a konsole. Usually it should give some output that might even reveal the cause for it not coming up properly. HTH, Ingo -- Ingo Strauch ---- Registered Linux User #227900 (http://counter.li.org/) GPG Key Fingerprint = DEC8 1B12 9573 6BE7 7A99 C33F 809C 8C2C 772E 66A1 http://www.the-one-brack.org/
Am Freitag, 12. Januar 2007 09:14 schrieb Ingo Strauch:
Hi Gerhard!
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:58:39 +0100
Gerhard Schmidt <gerd@dg4fac.de> wrote:
Any hints about further diagnostics and debugging?
Start kaffeine from a konsole. Usually it should give some output that might even reveal the cause for it not coming up properly.
It doesn't speak a thing, even with --verbose set. In the meanwhile, the system had a strange start-up, coming up without any USB devices. After two restarts and removal of an unused USB cable, kaffeine came up without any problems. So, the problem seem to be solved, but others seem to come up soon, I guess. All the best and thanks for the help, gerhard -- / ******************************************************* / * Gerhard Schmidt, Huegelstr.1, D-64319 Pfungstadt * / * http://www.dg4fac.de, eMail: gerd@dg4fac.de * / * Tel. +49-(0)6157-801615, Mobil: +49-(0)175-183 4118 * / ******************************************************* --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hi! On Thursday 11 January 2007 23:58, Gerhard Schmidt wrote:
After starting kaffeine as non-root by either KDE's menue, or clicking on a movie file, or calling it in a box the harddisk shows some action, but kaffeine doesn't come up. It works well as root, and kaffeine-check as non-root finds "all is good". Renaming kaffeinrc in .kde/share/config/ has no effect, no new rc file is created.
If there is no special reason why you have to use kaffeine, uninstall it and use kmplayer instead. I am not sure why it is not on the installtion media, since it does not need Mplayer, but it is certainly much better in terms of working as a plug-in and does not have these issues of only showing up some seconds after I started a video. Apart from that, for me kaffeine if used as a plug-in made konqueror crash on close. You can get kmplayer from packman's repo. Sven --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
I've tested Mozilla Thunderbird, and this "deletion" never occurs; but I am not so happy with Thunderbird, I would prefer Kmail. After that I've asked the admin of my provider, and he found out of the protocols that my client was it, which forced the deletion oy my emails at the server side. However, I never saw this protocol :-( ========== Ok, so T'bird works without problems then, so you know at this point
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 02:42, alexander.beck-ratzka wrote: [...] there is a problem in Kmail causing the deletion. Have you changed the settings of kmail back to the default settings to see if it clears up the problem. You'll only be able to locate what's wrong by doing a bit of testing now. Is this a POP server or IMAP setup you have for email? [...]
Have you tried renaming your kmail directory or it's config file so a new one is created to test if your configuration has gone to the dark side?
Why do you suggest this? Any background informations would be fine, because I like to understand what configuration failures (and I assume this "bug" is caused by a buggy configuration) might cause such an behauviour. -------------- Ok, renaming or removing your present KMail config file or directory will set everything back to a new setup. In this manner, you'll be able to test the fact that one of your settings is wrong for this account. I know you can set a filter to remove emails from the server without downloading, but it seems odd you would do that for all mails.
I always wondered if kmail had a feature such as this. I used a mailer on the Amiga that I could look at the headers of each mail before downloading or deleting on the server. It was very handy.
Again, some more infos to that...
Cheers
Alexander --------------------------------------------------------------------- If you knew the Amiga, you would understand better what I'm talking about. The email program allowed you to download only the headers of the emails, thus allowing you to see what was on the server before actually downloading the mails. You could then choose to delete the email from the server rather than download the mail. Very handy
bye, Lee --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 08 January 2007 15:40, alexander.beck-ratzka wrote:
Hi folks,
I've a strange problem using Kmail 1.9.1 distributed with SuSE 10.1 (Open SuSE). Sometimes, not always, if I try to download Emails from my pop3-Server, the Emails are deleted on the server side by my kmail client, and don't downlaod the Emails.
You might want to go in to your kmail account settings and check the "leave messages on server" checkbox Also make sure you don't have the "filter messages if larger than..." checkbox checked --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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