Running 9.0. After upgrading to KDE 3.2 on two systems, I have some problems that I just can't resolve. I did not remove kdebase3-SuSE on either system. One system works fine (my test system of course) and my main system is the one with problems. I had none of the following problems under 3.1.4. 1) Firefox keeps freezing, leaving zombie or dead processes resulting in blank windows on the desktop. 2) Sound no longer works 3) Local Network browsing no longer works (SMB) 4) Printing sometimes freezes the entire system 5) The system is basically unstable Anyone else have these problems and resolved them? Although I really don't want to, to go back to KDE 3.1.4, do I have to remove 3.2 (via YaST? and from a different window manager like FVWM) and then re-install 3.1.4 from the CD's? Anything else I have to do like removing profiles or ? Thanks- Dan
Dan Weisenstein wrote:
Running 9.0. After upgrading to KDE 3.2 on two systems, I have some problems that I just can't resolve. I did not remove kdebase3-SuSE on either system. One system works fine (my test system of course) and my main system is the one with problems. I had none of the following problems under 3.1.4.
1) Firefox keeps freezing, leaving zombie or dead processes resulting in blank windows on the desktop. 2) Sound no longer works 3) Local Network browsing no longer works (SMB) 4) Printing sometimes freezes the entire system 5) The system is basically unstable
Anyone else have these problems and resolved them?
Although I really don't want to, to go back to KDE 3.1.4, do I have to remove 3.2 (via YaST? and from a different window manager like FVWM) and then re-install 3.1.4 from the CD's? Anything else I have to do like removing profiles or ?
Thanks- Dan
Were you using 3.2 or 3.2.1 ? I get the impression it was 3.2 and that level contained a number of bugs (sound!) which were subsequently fixed. If you really want to go back, directory .kde in your home directory is liable to cause some grief. I would: - download the complete 3.1.5 packages - go into a different windowmanager and call yast or go into text-mode and do it from there - delete all of the packages associated with 3.2 (including arts, quanta, qt3 and I think libart_lgpl, libxml2, libxslt, taglib (??) along with the koffice stuff if you installed it) - rename .kde as .kde-3.2 or something - delete the obvious temp files in /tmp - install the 3.1.5 stuff, or the stuff from the CD Did I forget anything? -- opinions personal, facts suspect. http://home.arcor.de/36bit/samba.html
Andrew Williams wrote:
Dan Weisenstein wrote:
Running 9.0. After upgrading to KDE 3.2 on two systems, I have some problems that I just can't resolve. I did not remove kdebase3-SuSE on either system. One system works fine (my test system of course) and my main system is the one with problems. I had none of the following problems under 3.1.4.
1) Firefox keeps freezing, leaving zombie or dead processes resulting in blank windows on the desktop. 2) Sound no longer works 3) Local Network browsing no longer works (SMB) 4) Printing sometimes freezes the entire system 5) The system is basically unstable
Anyone else have these problems and resolved them?
Although I really don't want to, to go back to KDE 3.1.4, do I have to remove 3.2 (via YaST? and from a different window manager like FVWM) and then re-install 3.1.4 from the CD's? Anything else I have to do like removing profiles or ?
Thanks- Dan
Were you using 3.2 or 3.2.1 ? I get the impression it was 3.2 and that level contained a number of bugs (sound!) which were subsequently fixed.
If you really want to go back, directory .kde in your home directory is liable to cause some grief. I would: - download the complete 3.1.5 packages - go into a different windowmanager and call yast or go into text-mode and do it from there - delete all of the packages associated with 3.2 (including arts, quanta, qt3 and I think libart_lgpl, libxml2, libxslt, taglib (??) along with the koffice stuff if you installed it) - rename .kde as .kde-3.2 or something - delete the obvious temp files in /tmp - install the 3.1.5 stuff, or the stuff from the CD
Did I forget anything?
Actually, I'm currently at 3.2.1-xx, however I did start out at 3.2 and did updates to 3.2.1-xx as they became available. Maybe the cause of the instability?? If sound was fixed in 3.2.1, I haven't seen it working. Thanks- Dan
I agree. If sound was fixed somewhere, I haven't seen/heard it. I'm running SuSE Pro 9 with kde 3.2.1 and sound does not work. In fact, sound hasn't worked since kde 3.1.4. I've followed all the threads related to sound on this list since kde 3.2 was first released. Still no sound. <sigh> Intel i8x0 From YaST2 Modules > Sound configuration Number --> [0] Card model --> 82801DB AC'97 Audio Controller State --> Running Chris Shanahan On Wednesday 17 March 2004 16:49, Dan Weisenstein wrote:
Andrew Williams wrote:
Dan Weisenstein wrote:
Running 9.0. After upgrading to KDE 3.2 on two systems, I have some problems that I just can't resolve. I did not remove kdebase3-SuSE on either system. One system works fine (my test system of course) and my main system is the one with problems. I had none of the following problems under 3.1.4.
1) Firefox keeps freezing, leaving zombie or dead processes resulting in blank windows on the desktop. 2) Sound no longer works 3) Local Network browsing no longer works (SMB) 4) Printing sometimes freezes the entire system 5) The system is basically unstable
Anyone else have these problems and resolved them?
Although I really don't want to, to go back to KDE 3.1.4, do I have to remove 3.2 (via YaST? and from a different window manager like FVWM) and then re-install 3.1.4 from the CD's? Anything else I have to do like removing profiles or ?
Thanks- Dan
Were you using 3.2 or 3.2.1 ? I get the impression it was 3.2 and that level contained a number of bugs (sound!) which were subsequently fixed.
If you really want to go back, directory .kde in your home directory is liable to cause some grief. I would: - download the complete 3.1.5 packages - go into a different windowmanager and call yast or go into text-mode and do it from there - delete all of the packages associated with 3.2 (including arts, quanta, qt3 and I think libart_lgpl, libxml2, libxslt, taglib (??) along with the koffice stuff if you installed it) - rename .kde as .kde-3.2 or something - delete the obvious temp files in /tmp - install the 3.1.5 stuff, or the stuff from the CD
Did I forget anything?
Actually, I'm currently at 3.2.1-xx, however I did start out at 3.2 and did updates to 3.2.1-xx as they became available. Maybe the cause of the instability?? If sound was fixed in 3.2.1, I haven't seen it working.
Thanks- Dan
17. März 2004 23:22 / cms:
I agree. If sound was fixed somewhere, I haven't seen/heard it. ...
No sound problems on my Laptop! SuSE 9.0 with KDE 3.2. Hardware: intel 8x0 AC97 Regards, Michael -- ____ / / / / /__/ Michael Höhne / / / / / / mih-Hoehne@t-online.de / _____________________________________/
Interesting. Could you offer some suggestions? Things I could check to help to resolve my problem? I have a Toshiba Satellite 2435-S255 laptop. I would appreciate any suggestions you--or anyone else--could offer. TIA And, I don't mean to be rude, hijacking someone else's thread. Chris Shanahan On Wednesday 17 March 2004 19:43, Michael Hoehne wrote:
17. März 2004 23:22 / cms:
I agree. If sound was fixed somewhere, I haven't seen/heard it. ...
No sound problems on my Laptop! SuSE 9.0 with KDE 3.2. Hardware: intel 8x0 AC97
Regards, Michael
-- ____ / / / / /__/ Michael Höhne / / / / / / mih-Hoehne@t-online.de / _____________________________________/
On Wednesday 17 March 2004 09:22 pm, cms wrote:
Interesting. Could you offer some suggestions? Things I could check to help to resolve my problem? I have a Toshiba Satellite 2435-S255 laptop.
I would appreciate any suggestions you--or anyone else--could offer. TIA
And, I don't mean to be rude, hijacking someone else's thread.
Chris Shanahan
Have you guys updated alsa? What version are you running now? I have a version from the Packman site, but there is a newer version available from Kraxel also, the guy doing the 2.6.x kernels. You might try that before giving up on 3.2.1 kde. Lee -- --- KMail v1.6.1 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
rpm -qa | grep alsa alsa-devel-0.9.6-66 alsa-0.9.6-66 alsa-tools-0.9.6-73 kalsatools-1.5.0-69 Chris Shanahan On Wednesday 17 March 2004 21:26, BandiPat wrote:
On Wednesday 17 March 2004 09:22 pm, cms wrote:
Interesting. Could you offer some suggestions? Things I could check to help to resolve my problem? I have a Toshiba Satellite 2435-S255 laptop.
I would appreciate any suggestions you--or anyone else--could offer. TIA
And, I don't mean to be rude, hijacking someone else's thread.
Chris Shanahan
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Have you guys updated alsa? What version are you running now? I have a version from the Packman site, but there is a newer version available from Kraxel also, the guy doing the 2.6.x kernels. You might try that before giving up on 3.2.1 kde.
Lee -- --- KMail v1.6.1 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
Op Thursday 18 March 2004 09:01 schreef cms:
rpm -qa | grep alsa alsa-devel-0.9.6-66 alsa-0.9.6-66 alsa-tools-0.9.6-73 kalsatools-1.5.0-69
http://packman.links2linux.org/?action=217 They are at version 1.0.3b, which I have installed. Cheers, Leen
Two very useful features in previous versions of konqueror were "copy to" and "move to" accessible from the menu following a right click when in file management mode. I'm using KDE 3.2.1 and these features are no longer available. This is a great shame as they gave konqueror a big edge on windows explorer. Why have they been removed or is there a setting to reactivate them? Cheers John
On Thursday 18 March 2004 14:10, John Satherley wrote:
Two very useful features in previous versions of konqueror were "copy to" and "move to" accessible from the menu following a right click when in file management mode. I'm using KDE 3.2.1 and these features are no longer available. They're still there in 3.2.1, and using right click in a file window.
This is a great shame as they gave konqueror a big edge on windows explorer. Why have they been removed or is there a setting to reactivate them? Dont know how to re-activate, my cure would be to reinstall kdebase3, which IIRC contains konqueror
Cheers John
Jim
Is it possible to reinstall kdebase3 without first uninstalling it? If I uninstall it then many other KDE programs will also be uninstalled and probably then a complete reinstallation of KDE 3..2.1will be required. Any ideas on how to avoid this? John On Thursday 18 March 2004 17:16, Jim MacLeod wrote:
On Thursday 18 March 2004 14:10, John Satherley wrote:
Two very useful features in previous versions of konqueror were "copy to"
and
"move to" accessible from the menu following a right click when in file management mode. I'm using KDE 3.2.1 and these features are no longer available.
They're still there in 3.2.1, and using right click in a file window.
This is a great shame as they gave konqueror a big edge on windows explorer. Why have they been removed or is there a setting to reactivate them?
Dont know how to re-activate, my cure would be to reinstall kdebase3, which IIRC contains konqueror
Cheers John
Jim
-- Dr J. Satherley Department of Chemistry University of Liverpool Liverpool Merseyside L69 7ZD United Kingdom Phone: +44 (0) 151 794 3530 Fax: +44 (0) 151 794 3588 Email: js1@liverpool.ac.uk
On Friday 19 March 2004 12:06, John Satherley wrote:
Is it possible to reinstall kdebase3 without first uninstalling it? If I uninstall it then many other KDE programs will also be uninstalled and probably then a complete reinstallation of KDE 3..2.1will be required. Any ideas on how to avoid this? John AFAIK you can "reinstall" without uninstalling first as the rpm command has a freshen option which updates an existing package. There should not be any broken dependencies since kdebase3 will always exist. You may, however, wish to have this confirmed by a more experienced user than I before going ahead. Perhaps one of them will (dis)agree with me. Then again, you may decide to throw caution..... Jim
Jim I've taken a look at what you suggested. It seems that even with the -F (freshen option) one still needs to be freshening with a later version than the one installed. It does not seem possible to reinstall a package while it is currently installed.... but perhaps I'm missing something. John On Friday 19 March 2004 17:51, Jim MacLeod wrote:
On Friday 19 March 2004 12:06, John Satherley wrote:
Is it possible to reinstall kdebase3 without first uninstalling it? If I uninstall it then many other KDE programs will also be uninstalled and probably then a complete reinstallation of KDE 3..2.1will be required. Any ideas on how to avoid this? John
AFAIK you can "reinstall" without uninstalling first as the rpm command has a freshen option which updates an existing package. There should not be any broken dependencies since kdebase3 will always exist. You may, however, wish to have this confirmed by a more experienced user than I before going ahead. Perhaps one of them will (dis)agree with me. Then again, you may decide to throw caution..... Jim
-- Dr J. Satherley Department of Chemistry University of Liverpool Liverpool Merseyside L69 7ZD United Kingdom Phone: +44 (0) 151 794 3530 Fax: +44 (0) 151 794 3588 Email: js1@liverpool.ac.uk
On 22/3/2004 12:23, John Satherley wrote:
Jim I've taken a look at what you suggested. It seems that even with the -F (freshen option) one still needs to be freshening with a later version than the one installed. It does not seem possible to reinstall a package while it is currently installed.... but perhaps I'm missing something. John <snip>
You need the --replacepkgs option. See man rpm. -- Vic Ayres
Thanks that did the trick and Copy To/Move To reappeared. John On Monday 22 March 2004 15:21, Vic Ayres wrote:
On 22/3/2004 12:23, John Satherley wrote:
Jim I've taken a look at what you suggested. It seems that even with the -F (freshen option) one still needs to be freshening with a later version than the one installed. It does not seem possible to reinstall a package while it is currently installed.... but perhaps I'm missing something. John
<snip>
You need the --replacepkgs option. See man rpm.
-- Vic Ayres
-- Dr J. Satherley Department of Chemistry University of Liverpool Liverpool Merseyside L69 7ZD United Kingdom Phone: +44 (0) 151 794 3530 Fax: +44 (0) 151 794 3588 Email: js1@liverpool.ac.uk
On Thursday 18 March 2004 03:01 am, cms wrote:
rpm -qa | grep alsa alsa-devel-0.9.6-66 alsa-0.9.6-66 alsa-tools-0.9.6-73 kalsatools-1.5.0-69
Chris Shanahan
-> rpm -qa|grep alsa alsaplayer-0.99.75-85 gnome-alsamixer-0.9.6-45 alsa-devel-1.0.3-0.pm.0 alsa-tools-1.0.3-0.pm.0 kalsatools-1.5.0-69 libxine1-alsa09-1_rc3a-0.pm.0 alsamodular-1.5.12-35 alsamixergui-0.9.0rc1-355 alsa-docs-1.0.3-0.pm.0 alsa-1.0.3-0.pm.0 ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/suse/people/kraxel/9.0-i386/i586 This site contains at least some of the files you'll need to update alsa. The others are from your install CDs and updated normally with YOU or the KDE update. Lee -- --- KMail v1.6.1 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
BandiPat wrote:
On Thursday 18 March 2004 03:01 am, cms wrote:
rpm -qa | grep alsa alsa-devel-0.9.6-66 alsa-0.9.6-66 alsa-tools-0.9.6-73 kalsatools-1.5.0-69
Chris Shanahan
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-> rpm -qa|grep alsa alsaplayer-0.99.75-85 gnome-alsamixer-0.9.6-45 alsa-devel-1.0.3-0.pm.0 alsa-tools-1.0.3-0.pm.0 kalsatools-1.5.0-69 libxine1-alsa09-1_rc3a-0.pm.0 alsamodular-1.5.12-35 alsamixergui-0.9.0rc1-355 alsa-docs-1.0.3-0.pm.0 alsa-1.0.3-0.pm.0
ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/unix/linux/suse/people/kraxel/9.0-i386/i586
This site contains at least some of the files you'll need to update alsa. The others are from your install CDs and updated normally with YOU or the KDE update.
Lee
Ok, I rolled back to 3.1.4 after 5 crashes/freezes today. All ok, EXCEPT that yast2 now only runs in curses mode (in a terminal window). How can I get yast to go back to GUI mode?? Dan
Op Thursday 18 March 2004 22:30 schreef Dan Weisenstein:
Ok, I rolled back to 3.1.4 after 5 crashes/freezes today. All ok, EXCEPT that yast2 now only runs in curses mode (in a terminal window). How can I get yast to go back to GUI mode??
I guess you would have to install the package yast-qt... If you do that with YaST, all packages that it depends on will automatically installed too. Cheers, Leen
On Wednesday 17 March 2004 12:42 pm, Dan Weisenstein wrote:
Running 9.0. After upgrading to KDE 3.2 on two systems, I have some problems that I just can't resolve. I did not remove kdebase3-SuSE on either system. One system works fine (my test system of course) and my main system is the one with problems. I had none of the following problems under 3.1.4.
I wasted a lot of time trying to get 3.2 working and gave up on it -- too many things didn't work right. I've reverted to 3.1.4 and not regretted it. When the kinks in 3.2 are really ironed out (3.2.2, maybe?) I'll switch to it. Paul Abrahams
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