[opensuse-kde] Temporary migration to Kmail3 as work around
This is not a polemic post but driven by sheer necessity. Having Leap 42.3 and given the current situation of Kontact/kmail I have to find a temporary workaround to avoid the use of akonadi (given the daily or hourly crashes, compromised indexes, filter failure, and at the end as it seems even overheat shutdowns due to zombie processes and spontaneous system crashes. I thought at Kmail3 (that was the only program that never made me loose a mail. a) is it possible to migrate my mail from Kmail5 to Kmail3? What format would I choose for archival in order to be able to import them into kmail3. Thank you. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag, 29. August 2017, 11:06:22 schrieb stakanov:
a) is it possible to migrate my mail from Kmail5 to Kmail3? What format would I choose for archival in order to be able to import them into kmail3.
Actually, a migration should not even be necessary. kmail5 (and 4) still use the same actual storage. In the case of IMAP that's irrelevant anyway, but I suppose you use POP3 and local maildirs. IIRC, the location for local folders was configurable in kmail3 too, so just point it to your current maildir (probably ~/.local/share/local-mail, but hat's configurable in Akonadi too) and all should work. Settings (like filters) will not be respected though, and I'm not sure if it's possible to migrate them back. I did use kmail3 and kmail4 intermittently years ago (4.7.0/1, mainly because there were performance problems with POP3 that caused timeouts for me and kmail4 was unable to actually download all my mails because the server timed out). Though in my case, I started with kmail3 and continued to use the same folder (~/Mail/), as kmail4/Akonadi migrated the settings automatically anyway. Meanwhile (years ago...) I switched all my mail accounts to IMAP though for other reasons. (mainly to be able to access them from several systems/locations, and having all changes reflected everywhere automatically, e.g. I got bored of marking the same mails as read multiple times....) Sorry for not replying earlier, I didn't have time when I read this and hoped others would reply, and then forgot about it later on... Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag, 29. August 2017, 11:06:22 schrieb stakanov:
a) is it possible to migrate my mail from Kmail5 to Kmail3? What format would I choose for archival in order to be able to import them into kmail3.
Actually, a migration should not even be necessary. kmail5 (and 4) still use the same actual storage.
In the case of IMAP that's irrelevant anyway, but I suppose you use POP3 and local maildirs.
IIRC, the location for local folders was configurable in kmail3 too, so just point it to your current maildir (probably ~/.local/share/local-mail, but hat's configurable in Akonadi too) and all should work.
Settings (like filters) will not be respected though, and I'm not sure if it's possible to migrate them back.
I did use kmail3 and kmail4 intermittently years ago (4.7.0/1, mainly because there were performance problems with POP3 that caused timeouts for me and kmail4 was unable to actually download all my mails because the server timed out). Though in my case, I started with kmail3 and continued to use the same folder (~/Mail/), as kmail4/Akonadi migrated the settings automatically anyway. Meanwhile (years ago...) I switched all my mail accounts to IMAP though for other reasons. (mainly to be able to access them from several systems/locations, and having all changes reflected everywhere automatically, e.g. I got bored of marking the same mails as read multiple times....)
Sorry for not replying earlier, I didn't have time when I read this and hoped others would reply, and then forgot about it later on...
Kind Regards, Wolfgang Thank you for replying. I do not mind the filters, as with every "generational change" I had to set
In data lunedì 25 settembre 2017 12:28:46 CEST, Wolfgang Bauer ha scritto: them up one more time "ex nuovo" so it is not really a big deal.... provided they work. I asked because for one, I understand that Kmail4 is not longer maintained but there is still a "fan club" for kmail3. And, to tell the truth, for my whole Linux "carreer" I never(!) (and the exclamation mark is obligated here) lost ANY mail when I had kmail3. For me the uttermost most solid piece of software I ever used (from the naive user point of view, programmers may see that differently). It was the program that "just worked", you use it and "forgettaboutit". I tried now to install the package of your repo. I cleared all the cache. The only "strange thing" it checked 45 root mail messages (I have a problem with rootmail too, but this in another thread) for about 40 minute with very high system load. Since then silence, low load, low temp, up to now.....filter work -- looks good to tell the truth. So maybe I will not have to migrate.... at least I hope. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 25. September 2017, 13:26:09 schrieb stakanov:
I do not mind the filters, as with every "generational change" I had to set them up one more time "ex nuovo" so it is not really a big deal....
Hm, I don't remember having to set them up again, the migration took care of that I think. But then, I upgraded from older openSUSE versions (never did a new installations), and I always used the latest KDE versions from the additional repos, which means my upgrade path was a bit "smoother".
I understand that Kmail4 is not longer maintained but there is still a "fan club" for kmail3.
Well, the "fan club" for kmail3 consists of maybe 1 or 2 people, which try to keep KDE3 building (and 2 or 3 more who complain about problems that never will get addressed, see the opensuse-kde3 mailinglist). There is Trinity of course, a project determined to keep "KDE3" alive. But according to my impressions, they just spent years on merely renaming everything from KDE to TDE (also in the source code), and didn't do really many improvements either (and actually I don't even like some of the "improvements" they did either, that's off-topic here though). That may be wrong meanwhile though.
And, to tell the truth, for my whole Linux "carreer" I never(!) (and the exclamation mark is obligated here) lost ANY mail when I had kmail3.
I never lost any mail with kmail4/5 or Akonadi either though.
I tried now to install the package of your repo. I cleared all the cache. The only "strange thing" it checked 45 root mail messages (I have a problem with rootmail too, but this in another thread) for about 40 minute with very high system load. Since then silence, low load, low temp, up to now.....filter work -- looks good to tell the truth. So maybe I will not have to migrate.... at least I hope.
Ok, sounds great indeed. I will submit an update for 42.3 if you can confirm that it helps for a longer period. You filed an openSUSE bug report anyway, so let's continue there then, I'd suggest. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
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