Can't create new submenu with kmenuedit
Hello list, I have problems in generating a new menu entry with kmenuedit. When I entry a new submenu, and afterwards to this submenu new elements, everything seems to work fine. I can see the new submenu, and I can also save the new configguration. However, when I leave and start kmenuedit again, my new submenu is missing, nothing has changed. I habe installed kde 3.00, and I am running Fedora. Alexander
* alexander.beck-ratzka
I habe installed kde 3.00, and I am running Fedora.
Hummm. An *old* version of kde and running black-hat and complaining in a SUSE mail list. Something doesn't fit here. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 04:06, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* alexander.beck-ratzka
[10-11-05 02:29]: I habe installed kde 3.00, and I am running Fedora.
Hummm. An *old* version of kde and running black-hat and complaining in a SUSE mail list. Something doesn't fit here.
Very helpful, thank you! Alexander
I have to acknowledge Patrick here. We have a topic-driven list so that we can bundle the knowledge better. We all run KDE on SuSE. So we can help you finding the correct SuSE packages, we can tell you where SuSE has put the KDE config files and so on. So you cannot assume to find redhat package and config knowledge on this list. If someone has this knowledge, he surely runs fedora and if he runs fedora, then he would not be part of this list. Sounds logically? So no reason for you to get ironic here. Best, Daniel Am Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2005 07:47 schrieb alexander.beck-ratzka:
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 04:06, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* alexander.beck-ratzka
[10-11-05 02:29]: I habe installed kde 3.00, and I am running Fedora.
Hummm. An *old* version of kde and running black-hat and complaining in a SUSE mail list. Something doesn't fit here.
Very helpful, thank you!
Alexander
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 18:13, Daniel Eckl wrote:
I have to acknowledge Patrick here.
We have a topic-driven list so that we can bundle the knowledge better. We all run KDE on SuSE. So we can help you finding the correct SuSE packages, we can tell you where SuSE has put the KDE config files and so on.
So you cannot assume to find redhat package and config knowledge on this list. If someone has this knowledge, he surely runs fedora and if he runs fedora, then he would not be part of this list.
Sounds logically?
So no reason for you to get ironic here.
I feel there is a reason to get ironic, if one gets an answer like Patricks answer was it:
Hummm. An *old* version of kde and running black-hat and complaining in a SUSE mail list. Something doesn't fit here.
I wouldn't have had any problems with a statement like: "...this is only a SuSE-kde Mailinglist, and therefore I should expect an answer..." Never mind, I have to use Fedora in the office, and I'm not to glad with this, because at home where I'm running SuSE, I don't have such problems. I already have received answers from other SuSE mailing lists, even though the answer was concerned to Fedora... Cheers Alexander
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 11:32 pm, alexander.beck-ratzka wrote:
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 18:13, Daniel Eckl wrote:
I have to acknowledge Patrick here.
We have a topic-driven list so that we can bundle the knowledge better. We all run KDE on SuSE. So we can help you finding the correct SuSE packages, we can tell you where SuSE has put the KDE config files and so on.
So you cannot assume to find redhat package and config knowledge on this list. If someone has this knowledge, he surely runs fedora and if he runs fedora, then he would not be part of this list.
Sounds logically?
So no reason for you to get ironic here.
I feel there is a reason to get ironic, if one gets an answer like Patricks -------------snip----------
You'll find that your ratio of appropriate answers to self inflation increases greatly if you just filter patricks answers directly to the trash. Occasionally he comes through w/ a good answer (I've even saved some out of the trash for reference) but 70% of the time his answers are just a waste of bandwidth. If patrick was as forthcoming with answers to questions as he is pointing out others flaws then it would be worth reading his posts on a regular basis. As to your original problem I've run into similar situations in the past on suse but don't remember exactly what the remedy was. (Thats why I didn't answer previously). You might try reading up on kbuildsycoca kbuildsycoca --noincremental for example and look in your ~/.kde/... directory for *.desktop files as a start. Probably best to ask again as this thread has been tainted and most people are probably ignoring it by now. Good luck -- dh
On Thursday 13 October 2005 10:29, David Herman wrote: <snip>
You'll find that your ratio of appropriate answers to self inflation increases greatly if you just filter patricks answers directly to the trash.
Hi David, It's a free list. dump whoever you want to /dev/null, including me, but AFAICS Patrick has done nothing in this thread to deserve it. I wouldn't dream of posting the OP's original question here without identifying myself as a SuSE user first. And I'd apologize profusely if I did. Think about it: A different distribution (a competitor's?) An older version of KDE? No indication he'd tried Google or other research first? Come to think of it, he's at a business... where's the systems administrator? Where is desktop support? That system didn't get installed and configured by itself, did it? Or does this company plant a box at someone's desk, throw in an old CD and leave it's endusers searching the Internet for help? (Some employers are really *like* that, ya know?) All I'm saying is this: Had he prefaced his question with "Hi Everybody, I know this isn't a black hat list and the KDE version is pretty old, but I run SuSE X.X at home and I've got a problem here at work..." it would have defused any criticisms or latent sarcasm from the start. The people here, including Patrick, are... um... people. Accordingly, we express ourselves as human beings, particularly when someone does something a little bit clueless and irritating. Shouldn't the OP take some responsibility for anticipating this? I know I would have... I also would never publicly dump on someone like Patrick as harshly as you just did. No one participating here, much less he, deserves that kind of treatment. - Carl
* David Herman
You'll find that your ratio of appropriate answers to self inflation increases greatly if you just filter patricks answers directly to the trash.
Please forgive me for assuming that "suse-kde@suse.com" might be a SUSE list rather than a fedora/red-hat list. Amazing that, eh? but...., you won't see this, will you? :^) -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
On Thu October 13 2005 11:58 am, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* David Herman
[10-13-05 09:32]: You'll find that your ratio of appropriate answers to self inflation increases greatly if you just filter patricks answers directly to the trash. Patrick Shanahan wrote: Please forgive me for assuming that "suse-kde@suse.com" might be a SUSE list rather than a fedora/red-hat list. Amazing that, eh?
Well do i know how frustrating a n00by can find it when Suse goes awry and the problem/solution is not readily found. Most say how great YaST is but i have had so many screw-ups with 8.2 and 9.1, using YOU to update a standard install, that i now think it is best if n00bs (eg me..) just stick with the original DVD version. At least for the initial months. There are many config gotchas & dependency traps to confuse and frustrate recent Linux converts, esp. if they have no Unix/CLI background. Let's face it: Man pages and much Linux documentation is difficult for us to use, esp when it comes to trouble-shooting. This list has been a great help with all the patient gurus so willing to help us understand the innards. Even PatrickS telling us how stupid and lazy we are for not looking up some tidbit or command or log (yea RTFM, [again] eh Patrick?), that we never knew about until he pointed us in that direction. But his snarly heart means well i think. Thanks again to all; may you never tire of your good deeds and your unselfish advice. Linux is great equalizer: no more illegal monopolies, no gates no balmer no lies no MS 'taxes'.
* Brian J Berrigan
Even PatrickS telling us how stupid
this has _never_ occurred. Any person taking this approach would only be showing his own short-comings.
and lazy we are for not looking up some tidbit or command or log (yea RTFM,
this _has_
[again] eh Patrick?),
:^)
that we never knew about until he pointed us in that direction. But his snarly heart means well i think.
that I do. I would rather try to show you the way to solve your own problems rather than "just doing it". I find that "I" learn more that way, myself. And, I find *many* of the docs *very* difficult to understand. We must all remember that the writer of most of the docs/man-pages was the programmer, and he already knows what he is trying to explain. Something about "walking in the same shoes".....
Thanks again to all; may you never tire of your good deeds and your unselfish advice.
well said. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
* alexander.beck-ratzka
I wouldn't have had any problems with a statement like: "...this is only a SuSE-kde Mailinglist, and therefore I should expect an answer..."
hummm, somewhat difficult to see that this is a SUSE list. My mistake. "suse-kde@suse.com" -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
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alexander.beck-ratzka
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Brian J Berrigan
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Carl Hartung
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Daniel Eckl
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David Herman
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Patrick Shanahan