[opensuse-kde] KDE 4.2 + Qt 4.5 packages are going to be removed
Hello everybody! As you can read here: http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=906 KDE 4.2 will not work with Qt 4.5 ever. Hence providing packages of that combination does not make sense. If you are using those packages you have to change your repo, as it was just announced on IRC that the repo will be removed. KDE 4.3 will obviously work with Qt 4.5, yet as it is pre-alpha you should stick to either the KDE:KDE4:STABLE repos or if you are ready to take the risk, the KDE:KDE4:Factory: repos. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag 10 Februar 2009 schrieb Sven Burmeister:
Hello everybody!
As you can read here:
http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=906
KDE 4.2 will not work with Qt 4.5 ever.
You didn't read the whole article, right? Because it doesn't work currently with it, but the 4.2 branch is a living branch. As sebas noted "At least not until further notice." So while right now it's not a good idea, I won't claim that 4.2 branch will never support qt 4.5 Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009 14:59:55 schrieb Stephan Kulow:
You didn't read the whole article, right? Because it doesn't work currently with it, but the 4.2 branch is a living branch. As sebas noted "At least not until further notice."
Yep, but as people tend to ignore "normal" warnings which results in a lot of avoidable problems and resources spent on answering to those issues, I wanted to make it sound final (until further notice). There have already been people recommending KDE 4.2 + Qt 4.5 just in order to get better performance or avoid the corrupted icons in systray. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hi there, Am Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009 14:59:55 schrieb Stephan Kulow:
Am Dienstag 10 Februar 2009 schrieb Sven Burmeister:
Hello everybody!
As you can read here:
http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=906
KDE 4.2 will not work with Qt 4.5 ever.
You didn't read the whole article, right? Because it doesn't work currently with it, but the 4.2 branch is a living branch. As sebas noted "At least not until further notice."
So while right now it's not a good idea, I won't claim that 4.2 branch will never support qt 4.5
I'm a bit confused... being a simple openSUSE 11.1 who wishes to use KDE 4.2, can I expect that there will be future packages for KDE 4.2? What will happen, once KDE 4.2 will enter Factory? Will there be a a KDE:/KDE42 tree? Or will KDE 4.2 completely disappear, once KDE 4.3 is in Factory? Malte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Malte Gell <malte.gell@gmx.de> wrote:
I'm a bit confused... being a simple openSUSE 11.1 who wishes to use KDE 4.2, can I expect that there will be future packages for KDE 4.2? What will happen, once KDE 4.2 will enter Factory? Will there be a a KDE:/KDE42 tree? Or will KDE 4.2 completely disappear, once KDE 4.3 is in Factory?
Malte
If there's enough demand for it (Perhaps KDE 4.3 is really buggy) then no doubt KDE 4.2 will have it's own repository. Otherwise probably not. I really can't imagine too many people would upgrade to 4.2 and not want to go to 4.3 (when the time comes) if all is good. In short, you really won't be left out in the cold because there are so many people in your boat. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 07:54:56 am Eric Springer wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Malte Gell <malte.gell@gmx.de> wrote:
I'm a bit confused... being a simple openSUSE 11.1 who wishes to use KDE Just my 2 cents: I think we need a repo for 4.2 until 4.3 and 11.2 are stable or at least further along. I switched to 4.2 when I could get 4.1.3 to work reliably with certain application (knode, ockular). Since 4.2 88.2 and beyond my problems have pretty well disappeared.
4.2, can I expect that there will be future packages for KDE 4.2? What will happen, once KDE 4.2 will enter Factory? Will there be a a KDE:/KDE42 tree? Or will KDE 4.2 completely disappear, once KDE 4.3 is in Factory?
Malte
If there's enough demand for it (Perhaps KDE 4.3 is really buggy) then no doubt KDE 4.2 will have it's own repository. Otherwise probably not. I really can't imagine too many people would upgrade to 4.2 and not want to go to 4.3 (when the time comes) if all is good.
In short, you really won't be left out in the cold because there are so many people in your boat.
-- Russ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 09:54:56 Eric Springer wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Malte Gell <malte.gell@gmx.de> wrote:
I'm a bit confused... being a simple openSUSE 11.1 who wishes to use KDE 4.2, can I expect that there will be future packages for KDE 4.2? What will happen, once KDE 4.2 will enter Factory? Will there be a a KDE:/KDE42 tree? Or will KDE 4.2 completely disappear, once KDE 4.3 is in Factory?
Malte
If there's enough demand for it (Perhaps KDE 4.3 is really buggy) then no doubt KDE 4.2 will have it's own repository. Otherwise probably not. I really can't imagine too many people would upgrade to 4.2 and not want to go to 4.3 (when the time comes) if all is good.
Well, right now I have to get my KDE 4.2 from Factory. However, I don't want to run KDE 4.3 alpha/beta releases; I'd rather stick with 4.2.x during that time. From what I understand, the KDE 4.3 alphas/betas will be in Factory at some point so they can be prepared for oS 11.2. What happens to KDE 4.2 during that time (prior to oS 11.2 release, prior to KDE 4.3 release, after KDE 4.3 alphas)? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 8:59:55 am Stephan Kulow wrote:
You didn't read the whole article, right? Because it doesn't work currently with it, but the 4.2 branch is a living branch. As sebas noted "At least not until further notice."
So while right now it's not a good idea, I won't claim that 4.2 branch will never support qt 4.5
With that in mind, can we have the factory/4.2+Qt4.5 repo returned? I don't understand why it was pulled. I've been using it, and this is the smoothest, most responsive KDE4 version I've used to date. I don't have any issues with my plasma theme, or the widgets I'm using. I don't have the weird issues with the systray. Why do I have to revert now to the quirks I used to have, if I want to stay current? From the feedback I've seen on various forums, it seems to be positive. Even the systray bug reports in kde.org show the issue to be addressed with Qt4.5. Other than the devs, I haven't seen any user reports of issues or broken compatibility with 4.5. That's not to say they don't exist, but from what I've seen, the user experience has been positive. Acutally, in fairness, that's a lie. Qt4.5 broke KDM4 for me, and from what I gather, is not an uncommon issue. So I can see where that's a concern. I'm quite happy using KDM3 for now, works fine, and it's worth the improvements in KDE4.2, but I still think the option should be there, or better yet, KDM4 patched. I can understand that the KDE plasma devs aren't yet sure about what to do with compatibility for 4.5, but as the relevant dot article pointed out, they're looking at workarounds, not a dead stop. On top of which, 4.2 likely won't be shipping with 11.2 anyways, 4.3 will use Qt4.5, and the OBS repos are cavet emptor regardless, so can we at least have the option for now? Barring that, do the packages *have* to be built against Qt4.5, or can 4.2 factory packages be used with KDE/QT45? Or can I just use my home repo on OBS to build the 4.2 packages against the QT45 repo, at my own risk? Regards, KV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag 10 Februar 2009 14:06:34 schrieb Sven Burmeister:
Hello everybody!
As you can read here:
http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=906
KDE 4.2 will not work with Qt 4.5 ever. Hence providing packages of that combination does not make sense.
http://cyrilleberger.blogspot.com/2009/02/why-preventing-qt45-to-work-fine- with.html There have been some negative comments to this position as well, I wouldn't count to much on it. If openSUSE 11.2 will be rolled out with 4.2 then there will propably some modifications to work with Qt4.5 Still I hope for 4.3.... Anyways, thanks for the heads up with the repo, a good place to link to in case of upcomming questions =) regards, Karsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Sven Burmeister <sven.burmeister@gmx.net> wrote:
Hello everybody!
As you can read here:
http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=906
KDE 4.2 will not work with Qt 4.5 ever. Hence providing packages of that combination does not make sense.
If you are using those packages you have to change your repo, as it was just announced on IRC that the repo will be removed.
KDE 4.3 will obviously work with Qt 4.5, yet as it is pre-alpha you should stick to either the KDE:KDE4:STABLE repos or if you are ready to take the risk, the KDE:KDE4:Factory: repos.
Sven
The flip side: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/02/10/why-kde-42-should-use-qt-45/ Either way I'm happy, but I didn't see the rush in upgrading to 4.5. :) -Eric -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hello, Am Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009 16:12:20 schrieb Eric Springer:
The flip side: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/02/10/why-kde-42-should-use-qt-45/
Either way I'm happy, but I didn't see the rush in upgrading to 4.5. :)
Is it safe to use the current KDE 4.2 from Factory with Qt.45? If I understand right, it fixes certain things with KDE 4.2.0? Malte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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