Some progams don't show up in kicker
I have a annoying problem with kinternet and kscd (maybe more apps, didn't test yet): When I do start kinternet, the kinternet-icon (plug with green ball) doesn't show up in kicker. I did move all the icons a litte (and even more!), but the kinternet-icon is not there. Starting kinternet again gives the message: 'kinternet is already running!'. Well, yes, that's true... The same behaviour occurs with kscd. Strange enough, this only happens to 'root', not to other users. My system is SuSE 8.2 / KDE 3.1.2 now, but the problem occured since 8.1/KDE 3.1. Any clues? Martin
In any case you should NOT run all these progs while being logged into KDE as root, not at all. Do you have a special reason for logging in as root and wanting to run kinternet and kscd? You better log in as a user, and su to root just for a special task where you need to be root. HTH, Matt On Monday 07 July 2003 05:13, Martin Brüggebors wrote:
I have a annoying problem with kinternet and kscd (maybe more apps, didn't test yet): When I do start kinternet, the kinternet-icon (plug with green ball) doesn't show up in kicker. I did move all the icons a litte (and even more!), but the kinternet-icon is not there.
Starting kinternet again gives the message: 'kinternet is already running!'. Well, yes, that's true... The same behaviour occurs with kscd.
Strange enough, this only happens to 'root', not to other users.
My system is SuSE 8.2 / KDE 3.1.2 now, but the problem occured since 8.1/KDE 3.1.
Any clues? Martin
On Sunday 06 July 2003 06:13 pm, Martin Brüggebors wrote:
I have a annoying problem with kinternet and kscd (maybe more apps, didn't test yet): When I do start kinternet, the kinternet-icon (plug with green ball) doesn't show up in kicker. I did move all the icons a litte (and even more!), but the kinternet-icon is not there.
Starting kinternet again gives the message: 'kinternet is already running!'. Well, yes, that's true... The same behaviour occurs with kscd.
Strange enough, this only happens to 'root', not to other users.
My system is SuSE 8.2 / KDE 3.1.2 now, but the problem occured since 8.1/KDE 3.1.
Any clues? Martin ========================
Martin If it says that kinternet is already running and there is no icon in the systray, then stop it and restart it to see if your icon magically reappears. The "green ball" you speak of sounds like the "susewatcher" program that checks for security updates and would be a different program. You might also check the prefs of the programs in question. Some programs are designed to only show up in the systray and will not appear in your taskbar section. You can also start up any program as well without it appearing in the taskbar. This is done with: kstart --skiptaskbar <program name> Many things you run or keep running you may want to set up this way. Like gkrellm that monitors your system, you don't want it to appear in the taskbar, just taking up space, so you use the above command. Usually if the item appears in the systray, it is programmed to work that way, I believe. It becomes that area where programs kinda prestart and remain in memory, so they pop up instantly. OpenOffice Quickstarter is an example. Pat -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
Hi Pat On Monday 07 July 2003 01:26, BandiPat wrote:
On Sunday 06 July 2003 06:13 pm, Martin Brüggebors wrote:
I have a annoying problem with kinternet and kscd (maybe more apps, didn't test yet): When I do start kinternet, the kinternet-icon (plug with green ball) doesn't show up in kicker. I did move all the icons a litte (and even more!), but the kinternet-icon is not there.
Starting kinternet again gives the message: 'kinternet is already running!'. Well, yes, that's true... The same behaviour occurs with kscd.
Strange enough, this only happens to 'root', not to other users.
My system is SuSE 8.2 / KDE 3.1.2 now, but the problem occured since 8.1/KDE 3.1.
Any clues? Martin
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Martin If it says that kinternet is already running and there is no icon in the systray, then stop it and restart it to see if your icon magically reappears. The "green ball" you speak of sounds like the "susewatcher" program that checks for security updates and would be a different program. You might also check the prefs of the programs in question.
Some programs are designed to only show up in the systray and will not appear in your taskbar section. You can also start up any program as well without it appearing in the taskbar. This is done with: kstart --skiptaskbar <program name>
Many things you run or keep running you may want to set up this way. Like gkrellm that monitors your system, you don't want it to appear in the taskbar, just taking up space, so you use the above command.
Maybe a stupid question but..........how do you call up this program then (gkrellm) when it is running? /bill
Usually if the item appears in the systray, it is programmed to work that way, I believe. It becomes that area where programs kinda prestart and remain in memory, so they pop up instantly. OpenOffice Quickstarter is an example.
Pat -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
On Monday 07 July 2003 03:15 pm, Bill Wisse wrote:
Hi Pat
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Martin If it says that kinternet is already running and there is no icon in the systray, then stop it and restart it to see if your icon magically reappears. The "green ball" you speak of sounds like the "susewatcher" program that checks for security updates and would be a different program. You might also check the prefs of the programs in question.
Some programs are designed to only show up in the systray and will not appear in your taskbar section. You can also start up any program as well without it appearing in the taskbar. This is done with: kstart --skiptaskbar <program name>
Many things you run or keep running you may want to set up this way. Like gkrellm that monitors your system, you don't want it to appear in the taskbar, just taking up space, so you use the above command.
Maybe a stupid question but..........how do you call up this program then (gkrellm) when it is running?
/bill =========== Bill, If you mean, how do you get at it to quit it or something, then just right click on the program window and a menu will appear. You can also start ksysguard to kill the process. That can be started from the shell or just press the Ctrl-Esc keys.
If you mean, how would you start it up then do this: kstart --skiptaskbar gkrellm Pat -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
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