I have lost the ability to run kde as my normal user. It will run as root, but I don't like to do that. But I can get into my own account using vnc from work., that works very well, the problem is screen :0.0 Even as root, when I close kde it can't go back to gui login because it can't find :0.0 maybe that will help clarify the problem -- Bob Rea mailto:gapetard@stsams.org http://www.petard.us http://www.petard.us/blog http://www.petard.us/gallery Freedom is only privilege extended unless enjoyed by one and all --Billy Bragg