[opensuse-kde] Mail problem
power failed and I lost my folders and message again. Please resend what you had sent before. It is gone. and any advice about preventing this from happening again -- Bob Rea www.petard.us www.petard.us/blog America, it was a wonderful country Til they took it private and made it a theme park of itself -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
* Bob Rea
power failed and I lost my folders and message again. Please resend what you had sent before. It is gone. and any advice about preventing this from happening again
backup,backup,backup,ups,ups,ups
America, it was a wonderful country
America IS a Wonderful country.
Til they took it private and made it a theme park of itself
You live in a fool's paradise.... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-08-15 03:01, Bob Rea wrote:
power failed and I lost my folders and message again. Please resend what you had sent before. It is gone.
You can get it yourself from here: https://lists.opensuse.org/ For example, for this list it would be: https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/ Or you can download the archive from the "compressed mbox", and import it into any client you use.
and any advice about preventing this from happening again
If kmail corrupts just because a power failure, then don't have power failures! Seriously, invest into an UPS. Or don't use kmail. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Søndag den 14. august 2016 21:01:19 skrev Bob Rea:
power failed and I lost my folders and message again. Please resend what you had sent before. It is gone. and any advice about preventing this from happening again
Are you using XFS as the file system for your /home ? XFS has had a reputation for not handling power outages well, but I actually thought that was a thing of the past or just some exaggerated myth. But maybe you should try using ext4 on your /home instead if this happens to you often. Or possibly you can configure XFS somewhere to write data to disk more often or something to increase data security. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 15/08/2016 11:01 AM, Bob Rea wrote:
It is gone. and any advice about preventing this from happening again
Don't use kmail. -- Lindsay Mathieson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 00:41:50 +1000
Lindsay Mathieson
On 15/08/2016 11:01 AM, Bob Rea wrote:
It is gone. and any advice about preventing this from happening again
Don't use kmail.
Perhaps a better suggestion is don't use POP3. IMAP is the future, already. -- Bob Williams System: Linux 4.1.20-11-default Distro: openSUSE 42.1 (x86_64) Desktop: KDE Frameworks: 5.21.0, Qt: 5.5.1 and Plasma: -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:04:20 +0100
Bob Williams
On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 00:41:50 +1000 Lindsay Mathieson
wrote: On 15/08/2016 11:01 AM, Bob Rea wrote:
It is gone. and any advice about preventing this from happening again
Don't use kmail.
Perhaps a better suggestion is don't use POP3. IMAP is the future, already.
Oops. Wrong thread | list. Sorry. -- Bob Williams System: Linux 4.1.20-11-default Distro: openSUSE 42.1 (x86_64) Desktop: KDE Frameworks: 5.21.0, Qt: 5.5.1 and Plasma: -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
* Bob Williams
On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 00:41:50 +1000 Lindsay Mathieson
wrote: On 15/08/2016 11:01 AM, Bob Rea wrote:
It is gone. and any advice about preventing this from happening again
Don't use kmail.
Perhaps a better suggestion is don't use POP3. IMAP is the future, already.
And neither of these ?suggestions? is helpful in solving his problems. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 2016-08-18 17:08, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Bob Williams
[08-18-16 11:05]: On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 00:41:50 +1000 Lindsay Mathieson
wrote: On 15/08/2016 11:01 AM, Bob Rea wrote:
It is gone. and any advice about preventing this from happening again
Don't use kmail.
Perhaps a better suggestion is don't use POP3. IMAP is the future, already.
And neither of these ?suggestions? is helpful in solving his problems.
Well, he said he wants to prevent this from happening again, and both not using kmail and using imap may help in that >:-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 19/08/2016 3:25 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Well, he said he wants to prevent this from happening again, and both not using kmail and using imap may help in that >:-)
Yes to the imap, as at least if your client goes south you can just reset it up and resync. And with offline mode imap is quite responsive. And I was not joking about dropping kmail, its incredibly fragile now, and freezes and loses email if you just look at it funny. Which is a shame because it has a great UI and functionality - when it works. But for me email is one of thos things that has to be 99.9999% reliable. Use Thunderbird. It looks funky, but it just works and has some useful extensions. However Its support for shared addressbooks and calendars is limited. -- Lindsay Mathieson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/18/2016 11:04 AM, Bob Williams wrote:
On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 00:41:50 +1000 Lindsay Mathieson
wrote: On 15/08/2016 11:01 AM, Bob Rea wrote:
It is gone. and any advice about preventing this from happening again
Don't use kmail.
Perhaps a better suggestion is don't use POP3. IMAP is the future, already.
Well, its a yes/no/maybe Certainly KMail drags in a number of KDE things that you might not want, compared to the all-in-one -- well OK not quite, since it uses sqlite - of Thunderbird. Some of us are allergic to the whole akonadai thing! Using IMAP means you don't have to download and store all the messages - body that is. And you can delete them on the server. Many ISPs also allow filtering to be carried out on the server. Some do but in a constrained manner, for example not allowing shell access, not allowing you to set up procmail. I have one pernicious ISP who wants to charge extra for IMAP! So I use fetchmail to download using POP, run it though spamassassin and procmail to do a LOT of filtering, and then point Dovecot at the store. The end result is that my email reader, I choose Thunderbird, use IMAP and only IMAP for all mail reading. I'm a KDE user and have been for a long time. I've looked at, tried out, KMail a number of times and each time it has come up, in my opinion, lacking, for a variety of reasons. Yes, there are many cookbook recipes, but they make assumptions about the ISP that are simply not valid in my case, and as I understand, the cases of many people I've discussed this with off-forum. As far as the OP is concerned, IMAP may be a solution. Certainly KMail can handle IMAP as well if not better than POP, and in all probability the ISP is going to be more experienced than most users, and despite years and Grey Beard, I'd add myself in that category, at taking care of the business of email. Wouldn't we all rather scream and shout and point fingers rather than admit to our own <strike>stupidity</strike> mistakes? Blame them for loosing your email. Maybe they will give you a refund :-) -- The interests of society are better served by a system that encourages efficient trade activity than by one that encourages litigation. -- Amber Manx in Charles Stross's "Accerando" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
participants (7)
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Anton Aylward
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Bob Rea
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Bob Williams
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Carlos E. R.
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Lindsay Mathieson
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Martin Schlander
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Patrick Shanahan