A new phonon version is now out: http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/phonon-family-4-4-4/ This part was particularly significant in my opinion: "Last but not least we changed the default priorities of backends on Linux. To get the best experience you should now either use GStreamer or VLC. The former preferred choice Xine is as of now considered unmaintained and should not be used anymore." The openSUSE version, however, defaults to xine, and the VLC version is not available from the openSUSE or KDE:Distro:Factory repositories at all. I know that there was some talk about moving the phonon-VLC backend and the stripped-down VLC components from playground to KDE:Distro:Factory for 11.4, but I think this makes it more pressing. The way they mention indicates they think it is ready for use. Either way, should we change the default backend to gstreamer (or VLC if it is moved)? -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org