On 09/01/2014 10:37 AM, Raymond Wooninck wrote:
However we should remember that KF5 is different in its releases than KDE4. KF5 will have three independent releases (Framework, Plasma and Applications).
Is that in time or space? By that I mean (time) First we get framework, with whatever compatibility with the extant KDE4 applications applies), then we get Plasma, ditto, and finally application are, somehow, upgraded. I can't say I feel comfortable with that, certainly not the way I've expressed it, so correct me if I'm interpreting the ambiguity of your statement in a manner too far from reality. But my reality is the applications. Frameworks are cool; eye candy is cool, but its all those hundreds of other applications that let us get our work done, those of us that are not focused primarily on development. I'm not besmirching developers, far from it, but the handling of the KDE3-> conversion went badly. I do understand that FOSS is about a community and there is a need to throw out the pre-alpha, alpha, post-alpha, pre-beta, bet to the community and the community should try them out and report not only bugs and boundary values but feedback to the developers what are good and bad ideas, directions, and what gaps exists. Yes we had all that with KDE4, but it was very abrupt and alienated many people by pulling KDE3 away. The "in space" might be, for example, separate repositories for each of those. I can see the logic behind such a move.
The Framework components has been worked on already since the moment that kdelibs4 reached LTS (around KDE 4.9/4.10) and work started on Plasma after KDE 4.11 release. Only recently we see that porting work for applications have started. So we already have a different starting point than the KDE3 -> KDE4 transition.
Yes, but you are still going to need people who move and adopt it, and quite frankly postings so far leave me a bit confused about how the transition will occur from my POV as an early-middle-late adopter. Perhaps a digram on a web page, or a series of diagrams would help us poor end-users. Please: do treat us kindly. Even those who like me gave up on KDE3 and don't reminisce about how great KDE3 was still remember the bruised of adopting KDE4. -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org