I for one am still optimistic for 12.1.
I would love to be so optimistic, but unfortunately I have seen too many important bugs ignored. I recall back at 10.1 when package management was broken on install that I suggested a re-spin of final once the issue was fixed. This was not met with very much enthusiasm despite my insistence that the 10.1 release was useless without the ability to either install software or perform updates. However, it eventually proved necessary to re-issue 10.1 even though the final release should never have been made with the bug. As far as I can see, this approach to serious issues has not changed. I view the update manage bug mentioned in my previous message to the list the same way. How can 12.1 reach "final" with broken package management?!
Some of the issues you mention are already fixed in KDF/4.7.2, others are fairly trivial fixes. Of course some issues will remain and 12.1 won't be perfect, but it can quite realistically become better than 11.4, and we can't hope for much more than that.
I assume by mentioning KDE 4.7.2 that you mean it will be included in 12.1 final? I understand that issues will remain after release, but if broken package management is one of these issues, there will be no way to address problems after release for non-technical users as they will be unable to apply updates. Also, like I said, no Operating System in 2011 should be released with such problems as incorrectly-functioning optical drives...
With Will back (part-time), a full month of polishing and bugfixes before 12.1 could do wonders still.
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