On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Martin Schlander
Lørdag den 22. januar 2011 16:43:59 skrev todd rme:
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Martin Schlander
It might be a good idea to have Phonon prefer VLC backend _if_ installed.
This would require it be available for installation, which it currently is not from the mainline repositories. I think it should definitely be moved to KDE:Distro:Factory, the developers say they think it is ready for mainstream use now.
Do you consider Packman "a mainline repo"?
No, not really. Especially not for people trying to avoid legal issues.
Of course it would have been nice to include phonon-backend-vlc in the distro along with the parts of vlc which can be "legally" included. But that's too late now for 11.4 - it was always on the kde_ideas wiki page for 11.4 but apparently either noone cared enough, or had the time or the (technical/legal) skill to handle it.
Can we at least move it to the kde:extra repository then? And if VLC cannot be available, shouldn't we switch the default to the Gstreamer as the developers recommend?
But as for defaulting to gstreamer I have some doubts. Xine worksforme and we need libxine1 for Kaffeine anyway.
Also what good is it if the gstreamer phonon-backend is theoretically "better", if gstreamer itself is b0rked. I'm not a gstreamer expert, but I often heard about issues with Packman gstreamer packages. Isn't gstreamer an unmaintainable, steaming pile of sh*t from a packaging point of view?
Gstreamer is a freedesktop.org standard, used by a number of multimedia players
Being "a freedesktop.org standard" never stopped anything from being a major PITA before - you might even say: au contraire.
I am not saying it does. The point was that xine is not unique in having KDE applications depend on it, Gstreamer has that trait as well, and lots more packages depend on Gstreamer outside of the KDE project. So pulling in Gstreamer by default is not going to be a big burden for the system since it is needed elsewhere. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org