********* Rant - but it's the last one ******************* I've tried, really, to use this "thing", but no, definitely, it's not possible. I'm sure the foundation of KDE 4 is a step forward (don't ask me why, I'm just ready to believe, but I have not seen where there is an improvement I am using, I'm probably just dumb), but what's killing all that work is the desktop. The panel is awkward to say the least, organising icons to launch programs is possible, but so cumbersome compared to KDE 3. the whole thing is sloooow (probably eating CPU power for useless eye candy). Apparently, the devs have *decided* that the *only* way to use a desktop is by having some sort of automount. Every time you insert a CD/DVD you get a menu poping from the panel (greetings from Windows Vista!), to mount it (yes, I added a line in fstab to mount it where I want) I have either to use this popup or Dolphin. I have been told Dolphin is better than Konqueror - I fail to see where. Anyway, to mount (or unmount) a DVD you have to use "Places" - as I hide this, it means more clicks to get it done. Now, you can have a "link to device" icon on your folder view, but it does not work (you can mount from the console, not from KDE). A bug has been filed six month ago...... If you create links to other partitions, they work... but they have names with the .desktop extention all over your desktop. Now, I could use a folder view for these, but a) I dont want them on my desktop all the time and b) it defeats the basic idea (mount these partitions only when I need them). I've reinstalled 11.1 this morning with KDE 3 - what a breeze, simple, efficient, and that's not only because I'm more used to it! GIVE US BACK A USABLE DESKTOP (and yes! I'm shouting in the hope someone can hear!). Do what you want under the hood if there is a good reason to rewrite everything from scrap, but really I get mad when I see that we are going to loose a good, matured desktop that did all we needed and will have to "adapt", "get used to" some inferior piece of desktop software. perhaps I could try to get used to Gnome Desktop - but their devs seem to be on the way to ruin that to. After Step maybe? I hope 11.1 can stay up to date enough because I'm not getting 11.2, unless KDE 4 Desktop changes, but it seems to be going the Windows way: changing, but for the worse, because the people who write it have decided that the users had to follow "their" way. OK, I had to let this out, perhaps I'm the only one to feel this way. Thierry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org