[heroes] more bad HyperKitty
More HyperKitty frustration. :( I couldn't find what I needed, because I couldn't find what I needed: vast (too much) whitespace, up to 4 lines per list, openSUSE cluttering an estimated 90% of the lists (aka redundant, pointless), and a measly 10 items per page default. There aren't enough sort criteria on https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/. "Name" (alpha) is not alphabetic. Logically the alpha sort should be on the subject matter noun, not a modifier like openSUSE or Chinese. Shouldn't there should be separate groups for non-openSUSE, and for alternate languages, to keep the list(s) short enough to actually be able to find what's appropriate when the actual list name is unknown? Maybe those EN groups for which alternate languages exist could provide a link to the appropriate lang listing page. I went there looking for a support EOL notice for 15.1, but the (openSUSE) announce list has only two posts in it since July, one of which is the premature 15.1 EOL notice. What's the list suited to opensuse.org design and maintenance? www, web and internet are mostly or entirely absent, while opensuse.org is part of every list, thus unsuited as a search term. -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Am So, 31. Jan, 2021 um 5:47 P. M. schrieb Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>:
More HyperKitty frustration. :(
I couldn't find what I needed, because I couldn't find what I needed: vast (too much) whitespace, up to 4 lines per list, openSUSE cluttering an estimated 90% of the lists (aka redundant, pointless), and a measly 10 items per page default.
We could remove openSUSE prefix if we got SSL situation with Uyuni sorted out so we can display the mailing lists separately (https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/73267)
There aren't enough sort criteria on https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/.
"Name" (alpha) is not alphabetic. Logically the alpha sort should be on the subject matter noun, not a modifier like openSUSE or Chinese.
I don't understand how this sorting works if Ambassadors is below Ambassadors Chinese, but above Ambassadors Netherlands
Shouldn't there should be separate groups for non-openSUSE, and for alternate languages, to keep the list(s) short enough to actually be able to find what's appropriate when the actual list name is unknown? Maybe those EN groups for which alternate languages exist could provide a link to the appropriate lang listing page.
That seems a touch hard to implement all things considered, as I said, we will get rid of Uyuni being displayed on the openSUSE version of the lists when we can, and that will allow us to remove Uyuni and openSUSE prefixes on both versions of the site. We could merge the archives of dead mailing lists into more appropriate currently opened lists. The list of closed mailing lists with archives in hyperkitty is: ``` openSUSE Ambassadors Australia openSUSE Ambassadors Chinese openSUSE Ambassadors openSUSE Ambassadors Netherlands openSUSE Ambassadors North America openSUSE AMD64 openSUSE Bar SUSE Blinux (Deutsche) SUSE Blinux openSUSE Boosters openSUSE Ceph openSUSE Contrib openSUSE Edu (Deutsch) openSUSE Factory Base openSUSE Factory Graphics openSUSE Foundation openSUSE Goblin openSUSE Ham (Deutsch) openSUSE Ham openSUSE IA64 openSUSE Infrastructure openSUSE Invis openSUSE Java Libyui Development Limal Commits Limal Development openSUSE LXDE openSUSE Medical openSUSE MinGW openSUSE Mobile (Deutsch) openSUSE Mobile openSUSE Multimedia (Deutsch) openSUSE Multimedia MySQL Packaging openSUSE Networking openSUSE Conference 2012 openSUSE Conference 2013 openSUSE Conference 2014 Packet Writing Announce Packet Writing openSUSE Programming (Deutsch) SUSE Proxy Suite Radeon HD openSUSE Software Management openSUSE Squeegee openSUSE Storage openSUSE Testing openSUSE Translations (Magyarul) openSUSE Translation (русский) openSUSE Translations (Slovenčina) openSUSE Users (Dansk) openSUSE Users (Italiano) openSUSE Users (Netherlands) openSUSE Users (Polski) openSUSE Users (русский) openSUSE Users (中文) openSUSE UX vhostmd openSUSE Wiki (Deutsch) openSUSE Women openSUSE X.org YaST Announce ``` I'm welcome to any suggestions there. The number of item on a page should be a setting in hyperkitty, that's an easy fix though, I will have a look at it someday I would also probably appreciate if those issues went to https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/77701 instead, so there is a single place with that stuff and I don't have to run around and gather things from random mailing list posts.
I went there looking for a support EOL notice for 15.1, but the (openSUSE) announce list has only two posts in it since July, one of which is the premature 15.1 EOL notice.
What's the list suited to opensuse.org design and maintenance? www, web and internet are mostly or entirely absent, while opensuse.org is part of every list, thus unsuited as a search term.
Technically it's web@l.o.o, which doesn't mean any of the people involved in maintenance or development of www.o.o are there, just that it's the canonically correct mailing list ;) LCP [Sasi] https://lcp.world
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