More HyperKitty frustration. :( I couldn't find what I needed, because I couldn't find what I needed: vast (too much) whitespace, up to 4 lines per list, openSUSE cluttering an estimated 90% of the lists (aka redundant, pointless), and a measly 10 items per page default. There aren't enough sort criteria on https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/. "Name" (alpha) is not alphabetic. Logically the alpha sort should be on the subject matter noun, not a modifier like openSUSE or Chinese. Shouldn't there should be separate groups for non-openSUSE, and for alternate languages, to keep the list(s) short enough to actually be able to find what's appropriate when the actual list name is unknown? Maybe those EN groups for which alternate languages exist could provide a link to the appropriate lang listing page. I went there looking for a support EOL notice for 15.1, but the (openSUSE) announce list has only two posts in it since July, one of which is the premature 15.1 EOL notice. What's the list suited to opensuse.org design and maintenance? www, web and internet are mostly or entirely absent, while opensuse.org is part of every list, thus unsuited as a search term. -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/