Forwarding to the Heroes list from an email address thats subscribed and should be able to post. On 7/27/22 07:01, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
lame repost because I'm not allowed to send to heroes@
Am 26.07.22 um 23:28 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:
Hi,
I've added the heroes directly here to that thread because I'm almost sure nobody of the officials knows much about what was in connect or not.
I think cboltz and lars recovered the connect data at some point and created the current database. How that was done exactly and if anyone had an emeritus list in mind I just don't know.
So I hope the heroes can help with that and possibly merge additional data?
About tooling for regular cleanup I unfortunately won't find time anytime soon to work towards something like this.
Wolfgang
Am 19.07.22 um 06:24 schrieb Simon Lees:
Hi All,
At the openSUSE conference I noticed that we only had 3 people listed as emeritus members. This number is very much under the expected amount which from memory should be several hundred. So the board asked me to discuss this issue with you as I atleast remember most of the details.
In 2016 we did a one off run of an automated process [1] to contact all members that we couldn't verify were still active (using bugzilla, obs, mailing list activity etc). We sent people who we couldn't detect activity for an email asking if they still wanted to be members and those whom we got no reply from were moved into a second "openSUSE Members Emeritus" Group on connect, it seems that this got lost in the migration away from connect. Would someone in the membership officials be willing to take ownership of contacting the Heroes team to see if the list of members from this group can be recovered from a backup. From memory there was around 300 +- 100 people in that group and this process was only done once so even a backup from as far back as 2017 should have accurate info.
But for not to be safe if someone considers that they were previously a member but we have no record of it but we have some form of evidence to show they contributed in the past its probably safe to presume they were are part of this list and are entitled to be added back as a member.
As a side note given the election rules have clauses that require 20% of members to agree its probably in the communities interest to do this kind of clean up slightly more regularly like maybe atleast every 5 years maybe more. Of course under our current rules any current members who wish to stay members are more then welcome to regardless of how active they currently are.
Unfortunately however the scripts that were used last time were created and run by people who are no longer active in the community and its probably significant effort to recreate them, to this point no one has stepped up to do this which is why the process was only ever run once so if someone in the membership committee also has time to look into this it will probably benefit the community greatly.
If anyone has any questions about any of this feel free to reach out and i'll do my best to give a decent answer although most of this happened at some point before I joined the board.
Thanks
Simon
1. https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.opensuse.org/message/...
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