[opensuse-gnome] RFC: policy change for nautilus-open-terminal
Hi, What do people think about changing the default value of /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir to TRUE? This key controls what happens if you open a terminal with a right-click menu on the desktop. By default, it opens the terminal in ~/Desktop, but with this key, it will open the terminal in ~/. I've no opinion on this since I don't use nautilus-open-terminal, and both values have some drawbacks (if set to TRUE: it will not work as expected if you want to manipulate a file that's on the desktop; if set to FALSE, it will not open the terminal where you want if you use this feature as a kind of terminal launcher). Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 15:38 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
Hi,
What do people think about changing the default value of /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir to TRUE?
+1 - I find it quite annoying to end up in ~/Desktop Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 11:50:31PM +1000, Magnus Boman wrote:
On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 15:38 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
Hi,
What do people think about changing the default value of /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir to TRUE?
+1 - I find it quite annoying to end up in ~/Desktop
+1 -- if I had known the option exsisted, I had set it to TRUE much earlier ;) Best, Christoph -- Christoph Thiel, Tech. Project Management, Research & Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Christoph Thiel <cthiel@suse.de> wrote:
On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 11:50:31PM +1000, Magnus Boman wrote:
On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 15:38 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
Hi,
What do people think about changing the default value of /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir to TRUE?
+1 - I find it quite annoying to end up in ~/Desktop
+1 -- if I had known the option exsisted, I had set it to TRUE much earlier ;)
+1, I was thinking about it today. -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
By default on 10.3 it opens it in home if you right click on the desktop, which is IMHO the right behaviour. Opening the terminal on the desktop is often useless, and making it open there would mean that everytime you do that operation, you have do cd into home. Regards, Alberto Il giorno mer, 07/05/2008 alle 15.38 +0200, Vincent Untz ha scritto:
Hi,
What do people think about changing the default value of /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir to TRUE?
This key controls what happens if you open a terminal with a right-click menu on the desktop. By default, it opens the terminal in ~/Desktop, but with this key, it will open the terminal in ~/.
I've no opinion on this since I don't use nautilus-open-terminal, and both values have some drawbacks (if set to TRUE: it will not work as expected if you want to manipulate a file that's on the desktop; if set to FALSE, it will not open the terminal where you want if you use this feature as a kind of terminal launcher).
Vincent
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On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 15:38 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
What do people think about changing the default value of /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir to TRUE?
This key controls what happens if you open a terminal with a right-click menu on the desktop. By default, it opens the terminal in ~/Desktop, but with this key, it will open the terminal in ~/.
I've no opinion on this since I don't use nautilus-open-terminal, and both values have some drawbacks (if set to TRUE: it will not work as expected if you want to manipulate a file that's on the desktop; if set to FALSE, it will not open the terminal where you want if you use this feature as a kind of terminal launcher).
I don't think I've used this feature even once (I'm a fixed terminal layout kind of guy), but if I were to use it, I'd expect it to open the terminal in the directory I'm pointing at - i.e. ~/Desktop/ in this case. -- Hans Petter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
What do people think about changing the default value of /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir to TRUE?
+1 BUT... It'll mean that the menu has also to be patched to read "Open Terminal" not "Open in Terminal" At the moment, the behaviour is correct for the menu entry's text. -- James Ogley, openSUSE Member: GNOME Team and Planet SUSE. riggwelter@opensuse.org http://opensuse.org/GNOME http://planetsuse.org openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 11:10 +0100, James Ogley wrote:
What do people think about changing the default value of /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir to TRUE?
+1 BUT...
It'll mean that the menu has also to be patched to read "Open Terminal" not "Open in Terminal"
At the moment, the behaviour is correct for the menu entry's text.
wouldn't that confuse users which expect to see the files they see in ~/Desktop? Of course, if we change it back to 'Open Terminal' that shouldn't matter -- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo@novell.com> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 14:09 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 11:10 +0100, James Ogley wrote:
What do people think about changing the default value of /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir to TRUE?
+1 BUT...
It'll mean that the menu has also to be patched to read "Open Terminal" not "Open in Terminal"
At the moment, the behaviour is correct for the menu entry's text.
wouldn't that confuse users which expect to see the files they see in ~/Desktop? Of course, if we change it back to 'Open Terminal' that shouldn't matter
Changing this to open in ~/ again, will make 'old' users feel like home. No matter what we do, it will still be confusing for new users (ie, if I open the terminal from my Desktop, where is my home directory? I can see it on the Desktop but not in the terminal).
-- Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo@novell.com>
Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 11:10 +0100, James Ogley wrote:
What do people think about changing the default value of /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir to TRUE?
+1 BUT...
It'll mean that the menu has also to be patched to read "Open Terminal" not "Open in Terminal"
At the moment, the behaviour is correct for the menu entry's text.
Why can't terminals be started from a launcher? Does this mean I can get an "Open Calculator" menu item on the desktop too? :) -1 from me after thinking about it. The menu item only makes sense because of the context (current dir). -- Hans Petter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Qui, 2008-05-08 às 10:08 -0500, Hans Petter Jansson escreveu:
Why can't terminals be started from a launcher? Does this mean I can get an "Open Calculator" menu item on the desktop too? :)
Yeah. In Mandriva, they don't have that entry. If people want to launch the terminal from the desktop, they can just put a shortcut there. An entry in the context menu doesn't make much sense -- I think this is an artifact from the desktop being a Nautilus-based shell... Ricardo
-1 from me after thinking about it. The menu item only makes sense because of the context (current dir).
-- Hans Petter
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The ability to start a terminal in just any directory might be one of the most useful features in openSUSE IMHO. This is certainly not an artifact. Am Donnerstag, den 20.09.2007, 01:47 +0100 schrieb Ricardo Cruz:
Qui, 2008-05-08 às 10:08 -0500, Hans Petter Jansson escreveu:
Why can't terminals be started from a launcher? Does this mean I can get an "Open Calculator" menu item on the desktop too? :)
Yeah. In Mandriva, they don't have that entry. If people want to launch the terminal from the desktop, they can just put a shortcut there. An entry in the context menu doesn't make much sense -- I think this is an artifact from the desktop being a Nautilus-based shell...
Ricardo
-1 from me after thinking about it. The menu item only makes sense because of the context (current dir).
-- Hans Petter
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Sex, 2008-05-09 às 23:56 +0200, Christian Jäger escreveu:
The ability to start a terminal in just any directory might be one of the most useful features in openSUSE IMHO. This is certainly not an artifact.
I think the thread is on the desktop shell. The option makes perfect sense and is absolutely useful for the file manager. Ricardo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Hans Petter Jansson <hpj@novell.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 11:10 +0100, James Ogley wrote:
What do people think about changing the default value of /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir to TRUE?
+1 BUT...
It'll mean that the menu has also to be patched to read "Open Terminal" not "Open in Terminal"
At the moment, the behaviour is correct for the menu entry's text.
Why can't terminals be started from a launcher? Does this mean I can get an "Open Calculator" menu item on the desktop too? :)
-1 from me after thinking about it. The menu item only makes sense because of the context (current dir).
Precisely what I think too. -1 from me. Cheers, Ivan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
Le mercredi 07 mai 2008, à 15:38 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
Hi,
What do people think about changing the default value of /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir to TRUE?
This key controls what happens if you open a terminal with a right-click menu on the desktop. By default, it opens the terminal in ~/Desktop, but with this key, it will open the terminal in ~/.
I've no opinion on this since I don't use nautilus-open-terminal, and both values have some drawbacks (if set to TRUE: it will not work as expected if you want to manipulate a file that's on the desktop; if set to FALSE, it will not open the terminal where you want if you use this feature as a kind of terminal launcher).
Reading again the whole thread, I have the feeling that the majority is against the change. Therefore, no change :-) Thanks for the input! Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org
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James Ogley -
Magnus Boman -
Ricardo Cruz -
Rodrigo Moya -
Vincent Untz