On Tue, 2012-05-22 at 08:31 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
Le lundi 21 mai 2012, à 14:40 -0700, Roger Luedecke a écrit :
We included some extensions to fix some issues with Gnome. I wrote an article on extensions, and would like to submit the listed extensions in that article for consideration.
http://opensuseadventures.blogspot.com/2012/05/getting-most-of-your-gnome-sh...
It would help to list them in the mail so we can easily argue for/against each of them :-)
In general, the fact that extensions are easily installable means that we really don't need most extensions by default. We only need them if they really fix a major issue.
Personally I would rather we didn't ship any extensions unless absolutely necessary. Alternative Status had a valid argument put forward and the consensus was in its favour. As I don't use a desktop any more only laptop I wasn't overly affected either way. I would rather we didn't bundle extensions but rather make it CRYSTAL CLEAR as to where to get them and what they do. Maybe a greeter style item or something?
Here's my opinion on the extensions you propose (and it's just my opinion):
Alt-Tab switcher => it's a matter of taste. I'm perfectly happy with the new behavior, for instance, since I got used to it.
I actually like the default behaviour.
Alternative Status Menu => that's the one we ship by default, because it annoyed too many people to not have the Reboot/Power Off items. Not sure it still works, though, since I disable it. We might need to take the version from extensions.gnome.org
If I'm not mistaken this extension will soon be made obsolete by upstream as they are working on re-integrating shutdown (or did I get suckered by a joke?)
Network Connections => you can remove connections from the control center now, so the main use case is less important. Also, I think it's confusing to have both Network Connections and Network Settings in the menu by default.
I don't see the need for this, I find network connections are easily accessible.
Remove the Accessibility Icon => I don't think it's friendly to do this by default, as accessibility user relies on this. But maybe we can ship the extension disabled by default, given the number of people asking for this?
This should most definitely NOT be enabled by default. openSUSE is already viewed by many as an inaccesible distro, and we should be making moves to be more accessible not the other way round.
Notifications (that's just chat notifications) => No opinion, might be useful in the short term, but I think upstream wants to fix the core issue another way for 3.6.
This is potentially useful, but is it worth having something for just one release? I'd rather it wasn't a default and we highlight its potential usefulness.
Calculator => nice, but clearly not something we need by default :-)
No need.
Media Player Indicator => with media keys, I've never felt the need for this. What is the experience of others?
I really don't want to clutter things up, which IMHO this does. Banshee already offers the functionality from its icon so why duplicate the feature?
Advanced Settings => the advanced settings are not used often enough to be in the menu by default, imho.
I have only used gnome-tweak-tool once, after first install. Again why clutter things up?
Places Status Indicator => probably nice, but not something I'd use by default.
Possibly useful, although I never used that feature before and don't miss it now. Again we shouldn't have it as a default but highlight it for people should they wish to have it.
For the record, I don't think we should ship so many extensions by default. Having one or two is fine, but more might cause issues with updates, if it happens we have to ship a newer gnome-shell for instance.
I would rather we had no extensions shipped by default, but that's just me :-) Regards, Andy -- Andrew Wafaa IRC: FunkyPenguin GPG: 0x3A36312F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org