As promised, interesting GUADEC tidbits. * GNOME 3.0 -framework for getting there proposed by release team -generally well received -some concern about what the "cool" stuff will be -http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080714-gnome-3-0-officially-announced... -good summary -current approx. schedule is spring 2010 (GNOME 2.30 == 3.0) -ideal for a SLED 11.5 about ~18 months after SLED 11 -Federico talked to TimJ+Kris (Imendio) and Lucas+Vincent (release team) -porting even obsolete / deprecated platform libraries to new ABI to keep/backwards compat probable -agreed that we don't want to pull a GNOME 2.0. -Better sooner than later to avoid a GNOME 1->2 disaster. -Imendio mentioned producing compiler-based tools to do automatic porting. * Online Desktop -big board has improved a *lot* since last year -connections to many more services -ui improvements -gconf settings sync -favorite applications -using slab/tile type functionality for some stuff -seems unlikely to have full support in initial RHEL 6 -maybe in updates and RHEL 7 -many infrastructure issues to solve -shared and/or federated servers? -what about distros without for-profit backing? -what about ad revenues driven through this? -branding? * Multimedia/UPnP-AV -Aaron/Gabriel spoke with Zeeshan Ali about gupnp implementation -uses libsoup/libxml2 for HTTP/SOAP -requires a number of libraries to get the UPnP-AV spec (gssdp, gupnp, gupnp-av, at a minimum) -vala enters the picture if we wish to use their media server as a starting point -gupnp and gupnp-av will be difficult to bind do to the way they use GObject signals (similar to GStreamer) -very GNOMEy stack - GIO/GMainLoop integration, nice, but raises xplat issues for Banshee at least -looking to push gupnp into many areas of GNOME where UPnP standards exist in the market already -exciting, but still very young * Multimedia/Elisa -Elisa is maturing nicely, but also growing in terms of functionality -Last year they wanted to be more of a front end to existing MM platforms, this year they want to be the MM platform * Multimedia/GStreamer -Aaron/Gabriel worked with Win Taymans on starting port to playbin2 in Banshee -will provide gapless playback and other goodies in the future * Evolution Re-Licensing -well received, lots of support * Conduit -nautilus, totem, eog plugins so apps can leverage conduit -author is not that happy with the UI for non-power users -looking to share web services login manager with gnome online desktop * WebKit -webkit support heading for epiphany, yelp, gimp, pidgin, evolution -webkit has nsplugin support * Telepathy/Collaboration -telepathy-glib work to enable simpler usage by clients -cool "tube" work for files and vnc -vnc works well -issues around bandwidth demands for this sort of use -voice/video working well for XMPP and SIP -GSoC for farsight videoconferencing -Ekiga 3.0 coming * Sound -pulseaudio will probably be proposed as an external dependency -work is planned to get it well-integrated for 2.26 -with sound events through libcanberra * Keyboard Handling -Richard Hughes keyboard handling diagram -http://rhughes.fedorapeople.org/linux-input-model.png * Bluetooth -bluez 4.x series coming -3.x compat available at compile time in daemon -last stuff ported in ~6 months -Bastien N. from RedHat has partial bluetooth support for NM * Hardware -marco polo/shackleton projects for hardware policy -http://guadec.expectnation.com/guadec08/public/schedule/detail/56 * Random Applications to Watch: -PaperBox http://live.gnome.org/PaperBox -nautilus mercurial plugins -tweet/twitux -gdesklets (seems to be living a bit again) -clutter toolkit -GeoClue/gypsy for location aware apps -wizbit revisioning file system base on gitcore -time machine like functionality -JP -- JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org