Feature changed by: Elmar Stellnberger ATK (estellnb) Feature #306733, revision 13 Title: Add KDE3 buildservice repository to community list openSUSE-11.2: Rejected Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Karsten König (remur) Description: As openSUSE 11.2 will drop KDE3 from main repositories we should make adding the KDE3 repository as easy as possible, adding KDE3 to the community repository list would be an easy way to do this and will point out the unsupported state of the repository. Use Case: * Elmar wants to keep using KDE3 as KDE4 still isn't ready for him, he doesn't mind using a seperate inofficial repository though. This will make it easy for him to add the repository at install time and select KDE3 * Karsten hangs around #opensuse-kde and after 11.2 release a lot of people come and ask how to get KDE3 and start bitching about the decission to drop it, he can now point out this easy way to add the repository and help restore order in the channel Discussion: #1: Elmar Stellnberger ATK (estellnb) (2009-08-14 22:00:29) Vote for this if you are still interested in KDE3! The KDE team has recently decided to drop 'poorly maintained' KDE3 apps from factory (currently the only source for KDE3 at os11.2). Nonetheless these apps may still be more elaborate and stable than their KDE4 counterparts. For a list of KDE3 apps and such apps not ported to KDE4 (or at least some of them) you may have a look at http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Community/kde3_eval. (http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Community/kde3_eval) #2: Karsten König (remur) (2009-08-15 15:46:46) (reply to #1) Lubos asked on the -kde list which applications should be kept, why did you not reply there? There still is a KDE3 source, KDE:KDE3 in the obs, it just doesn't get added to the community list because nobody works on it, it's up for adoption, help welcome... #3: Elmar Stellnberger ATK (estellnb) (2009-08-23 11:20:49) (reply to #2) oops, must have forgotten to subscribe. #4: Elmar Stellnberger ATK (estellnb) (2009-08-23 11:58:32) (reply to #2) I thought dropping them from factory will not mind if these apps are kept to be provided by a default KDE3 repo as http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.2. However I had to notice that such a repo does not exist yet. #5: Stephan Binner (beineri) (2009-08-23 14:23:22)
adding KDE3 to the community repository list would be an easy way to do this and will point out the unsupported state of the repository. I would rather argue the opposite, adding it would suggest that it's somekind of supported. Voting against! :-)
#6: Elmar Stellnberger ATK (estellnb) (2009-08-23 21:52:56) (reply to #5) For the average user the 'support state' will not make a great difference anyway. The fact that some KDE3 apps are poorly maintained does not make any difference unless you have filed a bug for them. Even in times of KDE3 being 'well supported' so many bug reports have not been responded upon for years or not at all! Allowing to add KDE3 at install time will also facilitate the change to KDE4 since it is a common use case to run both - the KDE3 and the respecitive KDE4 app. in order to manually transfer ones user settings. #7: Karsten König (remur) (2009-08-23 22:25:29) (reply to #6) The user can add the KDE3 repository at install time or later and get all the kde3 apps as long as they compile. We don't want to make this look in any way supported, because it isn't and nobody wants to do it, this is for advanced users, and we expect them to be able to handle this themself. #8: Stephan Binner (beineri) (2009-08-23 23:42:53) (reply to #6) It does make a great difference for the user very well if the packages don't even build. And if you look at the KDE:KDE3 repository eg kdepim3 does not. + #9: Elmar Stellnberger ATK (estellnb) (2009-08-25 20:55:07) (reply to + #8) + I don`t understand what you mean. People add a binary repository in order + not having to build packages. Who would care about building a package + if it is available as binary?? - nobody (except a programmer applying + custom changes). -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/306733