Feature changed by: Barry Nichols (Barry_Nichols) Feature #305144, revision 27 Title: Yast as a Linux learning tool openSUSE-11.1: Rejected by Stanislav Visnovsky (visnov) reject date: 2008-09-11 11:59:56 reject reason: Postponing. Priority Requester: Desirable openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Christoph Thiel (cthiel1) reject date: 2009-07-16 17:56:25 reject reason: out of resources for 11.2. Priority Requester: Desirable Projectmanager: Desirable openSUSE-11.3: Evaluation Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Alexey Eremenko (fenixnbk) Requested by: Matthias Eckermann (mge1512) Description: Hi All ! I Have very good new idea: converting Yast into a Linux learning tool. This is very simple to achieve: Yast must show the commands it executes and files it modifies, in a nice GUI dialog. It will allow all kinds of Linux users understand how things really work. Enable learn new things or remind how old-but-forgotten things work for seasoned people. Great, isn't it ? P.S. Jay Vollmer recommends, that among the commands that Yast shows as it executing, it should also recommend "man pages" for the relevant underlying commands. -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov", 29.jul.2008. Relations: - [Feature-request] Yast as a Linux learning tool (novell/bugzilla/id: 412933) https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=412933 Discussion: #1: Alexey Eremenko (fenixnbk) (2008-07-29 12:09:11) Rajko M. wrote: If one wants to see what is gong on in background, than look at logs in realtime. There is console (Konsole) and command tail. Run as root: tail -f /var/log/YaST2/y2log and then start YaST and play with. -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov", 29.jul.2008. #2: Jerry Houston (effjay) (2008-07-29 15:41:34) Sounds like a great way for new users to learn more about what's under the hood. Or, what's under the bonnet, for the Brits. #3: Cyril Hrubis (metan) (2008-07-31 07:11:21) Moving to maintainers to decide. #7: Federico Lucifredi (flucifredi) (2008-08-01 19:35:40) It is kinda late for 11.1, but it is an idea worth pursuing. #8: Michael Löffler (michl19) (2008-08-15 16:32:56) agreeing with Federico this might be to late for 11.1 but should be accomplished with 11.2 #9: Stanislav Visnovsky (visnov) (2008-09-11 11:59:01) What we will have for 11.1 is the infrastructure for YaST modules to write this information into /var/log/YaST2/y2changes log file. So far, no YaST module has support for this, but it can be added gradually. Thus, postponing for 11.2. #10: Federico Lucifredi (flucifredi) (2009-01-07 19:45:36) At engineering's discretion, we can start working on this. + #13: Barry Nichols (barry_nichols) (2010-07-08 07:26:38) + I believe that YaST is a great tool to provide a level of abstraction + between a user who doesn't care what files need to be edited to change + things; however, a user wishing to become more knowledgeable about how + GNU/Linux works would do better to read about it. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305144