Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #307488, revision 9 Title: Simplify Menus (More like Debian/Ubuntu) - openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) + reject date: 2010-11-08 16:37:41 + reject reason: Not done for 11.3. Priority Requester: Important - openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.4: New Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Jason Fergus (jfergus) Description: I am always shocked at how sloppy the menus are in not only openSUSE, but Mandriva, etc. Most of them have the structure of Applications -> Internet -> Browsers -> Firefox If there is ONE entry under browswers, why have a sub menu? That's one more bit of waiting you have to do for the sub menu to open. Debian and Ubuntu both have it set up as Applications -> Internet -> Firefox. Makes far more sense that way. Now what would be nice is a programmatical way to have the menus create a sub menu if (and only if) the full menu starts to get too full, or there are at least 5 of an application 'type'. This obviously would require some things beyond just the distributions though, and instead would require some alterations to the freedesktop spec for creating menu entries. I do feel that this would help with some major frustrations of users who are thinking of switching. I seriously would have stayed with using openSUSE except for this issue (and the billion different repositories that are out there.) Please FIX THE MENUS! + This is done for GNOME for openSUSE 11.4 but not yet for KDE. Discussion: #1: Stephan Binner (beineri) (2009-08-23 15:21:50) You must be talking about GNOME as the KDE desktops to that on [open] SUSE for ages. And it's also supposed to change for GNOME in openSUSE 11.2 (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529057). #2: Ralph Ulrich (ulenrich) (2009-08-23 15:51:00) I want to support this fate. Here my case study: Recently I wanted to change default avi-viewer. I got the menu structure to select my new default viewer. I wanted to choose vlc. It is hidden under: menu/apps/multimedia/audio - For I had forgotten vlc to also be an audio-app I didn't find it. (I entered "/usr/bin/vlc" - but I do not expect normal users to get such an idea) #3: Ralph Ulrich (ulenrich) (2009-08-23 15:56:08) (reply to #2) In regard of Kde4 : As nowadays users start there apps using favorites or ALT+f2 I vote for a more flat menu structure! #4: Thiago Sayao (sayao) (2010-06-22 13:28:54) This would be nice, the menu in opensuse has too many levels. #5: Otso Rajala (daedaluz) (2010-08-16 02:34:02) Applies to KDE Kickoff as well, really frustrating and unnecesary. Reducing menu levels universall6y by one would be the best. #6: Vincent Untz (vuntz) (2010-09-07 18:50:36) This is fixed in GNOME now in 11.4. We use another structure than the KDE one since we were unhappy for exactly this reason. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307488