Moreover, these kind of modifications often kind of rebrand the
Feature changed by: Klaas Freitag (kfreitag) Feature #306007, revision 15 Title: Ship more vanilla openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Michael Löffler (michl19) reject date: 2009-03-30 15:44:21 reject reason: openSUSE branding is important for us. Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Michael Löffler (michl19) reject date: 2009-03-30 15:46:13 reject reason: same reason as 11.1 Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Klaas Freitag (kfreitag) Description: Upstream projects such as KDE 4 often are developed with very high care for usability, design and eye candy, staffed with high skilled specialists and/or artists. openSUSE modifications against the vanilla versions sometimes do not really improve the upstream version. Moreover, these kind of modifications often kind of rebrand the projects, for example by replacing the KDE startmenu button by an openSUSE branded one. The openSUSE distribution as a community project should maintain the brand of the upstream projects and not hide them from the distributions users. Also patching vanilla behaviors where not technically needed or fixing problems should be handled very carefully and only happen in - good dialog with upstream communities and friends. + good dialog with upstream communities and friends and partners. Discussion: #1: Klaas Freitag (kfreitag) (2009-03-05 23:19:32) This feature happened by error, please see #306008 and ignore this. More details at Bugzilla #482627 #3: Stephan Binner (beineri) (2009-03-06 07:07:29) (reply to #1) Bugzilla #482627 is not publicly visible. #5: Thomas Schmidt (digitaltomm) (2009-03-06 16:24:31) (reply to #3) it's open now. #6: Stephan Binner (beineri) (2009-03-06 16:44:05) (reply to #5) Thanks, it seems to be totally unrevelant to the reasoning for this Fate entry except the reporter wants to say that the timeout was caused by faulty patching of KDE. #2: Stephan Binner (beineri) (2009-03-06 07:07:01) projects, for example by replacing the KDE startmenu button by an openSUSE branded one. This is done intentionally and not by mistake. Install the -branding- upstream packages instead of the -branding-openSUSE packages for upstream startmenu button, wallpaper etc.
Also patching vanilla behaviors where not technically needed or fixing problems should be handled very carefully and only happen in good dialog with upstream. Is this some kind of way of you to tell "you have done a bad job"?
#4: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-03-06 08:34:01) (reply to #2) I think that branding is handled better in openSUSE than in any other distribution. Read more info at http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Package_Conventions/Branding Basically you need to replace all *-branding-openSUSE package with *- branding-upstream, as Stephan has pointed out. Because all branding packages conflict with each other, it should be sufficient just to install the upstream branding and the openSUSE branding will be uninstalled. #7: William Simon Lewis (williamsimonlewis) (2009-03-06 18:13:35) I can understand openSUSE like to use branding to give the distribution a homogeneous image. Presently the application splash screens (gimp, openoffice, acrobat reader etc..) look the same - a box colored blue- grey. If you are using a PC all day then it would be refreshing to have differing splash screens - which is why I, and I guess many others, install the original branding. Perhaps openSUSE designers could give each program splash screen a different image (and colors) but include the openSUSE logo that would interesting and make for some variation. By the way, I can't install the "branding upstream" without uninstalling yast -there seems to be some unnecessary dependency!!! #8: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-03-07 16:35:17) (reply to #7) Please create a bug-report about unnecessary dependency in the Bugzilla. That's where it should be, not here. Thanks! #9: Stephan Binner (beineri) (2009-03-30 17:30:54) (reply to #8) There exist bug reports about: bnc#490017 and bnc#490018 -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/306007