[opensuse-factory] After update to KDE 5.4, the workspace hangs at startup at 90%
Last night I updated KDE from 5.3 to 5.4 on my 64-bit Tumbleweed system. After restarting the KDE workspace now hangs at startup with the progress indicator at about 90%. In the systemd journal I noticed this kde5 entry, but I don't know if it is related to the hang: QT: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL Anyone know what is going on? Thanks in advance. Stephan van den Akker -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Stephan,
Last night I updated KDE from 5.3 to 5.4 on my 64-bit Tumbleweed system. After restarting the KDE workspace now hangs at startup with the progress indicator at about 90%.
In the systemd journal I noticed this kde5 entry, but I don't know if it is related to the hang: QT: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL
Anyone know what is going on?
does the problem vanish, when you switch off the splash screen?
Thanks in advance.
Stephan van den Akker
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The problem doesn't vanish when I switch off the splash screen. Now the freeze happens on the login screen. 2015-09-12 10:23 GMT+02:00 Michael Hirmke <mh@mike.franken.de>:
Hi Stephan,
Last night I updated KDE from 5.3 to 5.4 on my 64-bit Tumbleweed system. After restarting the KDE workspace now hangs at startup with the progress indicator at about 90%.
In the systemd journal I noticed this kde5 entry, but I don't know if it is related to the hang: QT: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL
Anyone know what is going on?
does the problem vanish, when you switch off the splash screen?
Thanks in advance.
Stephan van den Akker
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Hi Stephan,
The problem doesn't vanish when I switch off the splash screen. Now the freeze happens on the login screen.
ok. Do you have a custom background for the login screen? If so can you try to switch it back to the default background? Bye. Michael.
2015-09-12 10:23 GMT+02:00 Michael Hirmke <mh@mike.franken.de>:
Hi Stephan,
Last night I updated KDE from 5.3 to 5.4 on my 64-bit Tumbleweed system. After restarting the KDE workspace now hangs at startup with the progress indicator at about 90%.
In the systemd journal I noticed this kde5 entry, but I don't know if it is related to the hang: QT: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL
Anyone know what is going on?
does the problem vanish, when you switch off the splash screen?
Thanks in advance.
Stephan van den Akker
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Nope, with full openSUSE theming it still hangs. 2015-09-12 19:04 GMT+02:00 Michael Hirmke <mh@mike.franken.de>:
Hi Stephan,
The problem doesn't vanish when I switch off the splash screen. Now the freeze happens on the login screen.
ok. Do you have a custom background for the login screen? If so can you try to switch it back to the default background?
Bye. Michael.
2015-09-12 10:23 GMT+02:00 Michael Hirmke <mh@mike.franken.de>:
Hi Stephan,
Last night I updated KDE from 5.3 to 5.4 on my 64-bit Tumbleweed system. After restarting the KDE workspace now hangs at startup with the progress indicator at about 90%.
In the systemd journal I noticed this kde5 entry, but I don't know if it is related to the hang: QT: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL
Anyone know what is going on?
does the problem vanish, when you switch off the splash screen?
Thanks in advance.
Stephan van den Akker
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Hi Stephan,
Nope, with full openSUSE theming it still hangs.
do you have any autostart scripts or programs? Does it hang forever or only for a long time? Do you have any entries in the journal/logs? Can you try to disable the compositor when the situation occurs (Shift+Alt+F12) and reenable it? Bye. Michael.
2015-09-12 19:04 GMT+02:00 Michael Hirmke <mh@mike.franken.de>:
Hi Stephan,
The problem doesn't vanish when I switch off the splash screen. Now the freeze happens on the login screen.
ok. Do you have a custom background for the login screen? If so can you try to switch it back to the default background?
Bye. Michael.
2015-09-12 10:23 GMT+02:00 Michael Hirmke <mh@mike.franken.de>:
Hi Stephan,
Last night I updated KDE from 5.3 to 5.4 on my 64-bit Tumbleweed system. After restarting the KDE workspace now hangs at startup with the progress indicator at about 90%.
In the systemd journal I noticed this kde5 entry, but I don't know if it is related to the hang: QT: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL
Anyone know what is going on?
does the problem vanish, when you switch off the splash screen?
Thanks in advance.
Stephan van den Akker
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@ Michael, - Other than Knetworkmanager and some other stuff in the System tray (possible Konversation) I'm don't have any non-standard autostart scripts or programs. - It hangs forever (tried overnight) - The output of journalctr contains 1 kded5 entry around the time of the hang: QT: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL It als contains two error messages by pulse audio. - Pressing Shift+Alt+F12 does nothing @ Sean, - Deleted all plasma* files doesn't solve the problem 2015-09-13 13:18 GMT+02:00 Michael Hirmke <mh@mike.franken.de>:
Hi Stephan,
Nope, with full openSUSE theming it still hangs.
do you have any autostart scripts or programs? Does it hang forever or only for a long time? Do you have any entries in the journal/logs? Can you try to disable the compositor when the situation occurs (Shift+Alt+F12) and reenable it?
Bye. Michael.
2015-09-12 19:04 GMT+02:00 Michael Hirmke <mh@mike.franken.de>:
Hi Stephan,
The problem doesn't vanish when I switch off the splash screen. Now the freeze happens on the login screen.
ok. Do you have a custom background for the login screen? If so can you try to switch it back to the default background?
Bye. Michael.
2015-09-12 10:23 GMT+02:00 Michael Hirmke <mh@mike.franken.de>:
Hi Stephan,
Last night I updated KDE from 5.3 to 5.4 on my 64-bit Tumbleweed system. After restarting the KDE workspace now hangs at startup with the progress indicator at about 90%.
In the systemd journal I noticed this kde5 entry, but I don't know if it is related to the hang: QT: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL
Anyone know what is going on?
does the problem vanish, when you switch off the splash screen?
Thanks in advance.
Stephan van den Akker
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On Sunday, 13 September 2015 14:28:19 CEST Stephan van den Akker wrote:
@ Michael,
- Other than Knetworkmanager and some other stuff in the System tray (possible Konversation) I'm don't have any non-standard autostart scripts or programs. - It hangs forever (tried overnight) - The output of journalctr contains 1 kded5 entry around the time of the hang: QT: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL It als contains two error messages by pulse audio. - Pressing Shift+Alt+F12 does nothing
Hi Stephan, Lets try something crazy :) Can you remove the kactivities5 package (only this one !!!). you can easily do it from a root konsole and then use the command "rpm -e --nodeps kactivities5" Do this before you login in to the KDE session ! Afterwards try to login again and see if now the desktop loads. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
@Raymond: No change. KDE still hangs on startup. 2015-09-13 14:46 GMT+02:00 Raymond Wooninck <tittiatcoke@gmail.com>:
On Sunday, 13 September 2015 14:28:19 CEST Stephan van den Akker wrote:
@ Michael,
- Other than Knetworkmanager and some other stuff in the System tray (possible Konversation) I'm don't have any non-standard autostart scripts or programs. - It hangs forever (tried overnight) - The output of journalctr contains 1 kded5 entry around the time of the hang: QT: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL It als contains two error messages by pulse audio. - Pressing Shift+Alt+F12 does nothing
Hi Stephan,
Lets try something crazy :) Can you remove the kactivities5 package (only this one !!!). you can easily do it from a root konsole and then use the command "rpm -e --nodeps kactivities5" Do this before you login in to the KDE session ! Afterwards try to login again and see if now the desktop loads.
Regards
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On Sunday, 13 September 2015 15:06:27 CEST Stephan van den Akker wrote:
@Raymond: No change. KDE still hangs on startup.
Hi Stephan, Hmm, that is strange. I know that the kactivities daemon causes issues in the past and from time to time still is preventing plasmashell to start. Removing this package should remove that daemon. Is there any process that takes up cpu ? Which are the 10 top processes that are running while plasma is hanging ?? I haven't seen the beginning of this thread, but I assume you checked ~/.xsession-errors-:0 for any strange errors ? Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Il Sun, 13 Sep 2015 15:06:27 +0200, Stephan van den Akker ha scritto:
@Raymond: No change. KDE still hangs on startup.
Are you using KWallet with PAM? -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: A29D259B -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Stephan,
@ Michael,
- Other than Knetworkmanager and some other stuff in the System tray (possible Konversation) I'm don't have any non-standard autostart scripts or programs. - It hangs forever (tried overnight) - The output of journalctr contains 1 kded5 entry around the time of the hang: QT: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL It als contains two error messages by pulse audio. - Pressing Shift+Alt+F12 does nothing
ok, running out of ideas - sry 8-< I had the same problem as you, but it vanished, when I corrected the permissions for my custom login screen background. Bye. Michael. -- Michael Hirmke -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op zaterdag 12 september 2015 10:02:31 schreef Stephan van den Akker:
Last night I updated KDE from 5.3 to 5.4 on my 64-bit Tumbleweed system. After restarting the KDE workspace now hangs at startup with the progress indicator at about 90%.
In the systemd journal I noticed this kde5 entry, but I don't know if it is related to the hang: QT: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL
Anyone know what is going on?
Thanks in advance.
Stephan van den Akker
I saw this on one of the laptops overhere, but just once, after a reboot everything was back to normal. Haven't reported anything since a bumblebee install was done in the same session so I did not know what to blame yet. -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht Official openSUSE Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday, 12 September, 2015 04:02 PM, Stephan van den Akker wrote:
Last night I updated KDE from 5.3 to 5.4 on my 64-bit Tumbleweed system. After restarting the KDE workspace now hangs at startup with the progress indicator at about 90%.
In the systemd journal I noticed this kde5 entry, but I don't know if it is related to the hang: QT: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL
Try deleting plasma* files in your ~/.config folder. Sometimes they break log-in and going back to defaults will fix the problem. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday 12 Sep 2015 10:02:31 Stephan van den Akker wrote:
Last night I updated KDE from 5.3 to 5.4 on my 64-bit Tumbleweed system. After restarting the KDE workspace now hangs at startup with the progress indicator at about 90%.
In the systemd journal I noticed this kde5 entry, but I don't know if it is related to the hang: QT: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL
Anyone know what is going on?
Thanks in advance.
Stephan van den Akker
Have you tried creating a new user via Yast (via cli) and see if the new user has the same issue? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
@Raymond: top reports systemd, kthreadd, ksoftirqd, kworker, rcu* etc.. CPU is at < 1% most of the time. I noticed that during the first reboot after the update baloo was quite active indexing files. It was the reason I left it on during the night. No activitity any more now. xsession-errors doesn't seem to contain a lot of errors AFAICS @ian: New user has the same problem (hangs). No kded5 errors in the journal if I log in as this new user. 2015-09-13 15:23 GMT+02:00 ianseeks <ianseeks@yahoo.co.uk>:
On Saturday 12 Sep 2015 10:02:31 Stephan van den Akker wrote:
Last night I updated KDE from 5.3 to 5.4 on my 64-bit Tumbleweed system. After restarting the KDE workspace now hangs at startup with the progress indicator at about 90%.
In the systemd journal I noticed this kde5 entry, but I don't know if it is related to the hang: QT: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL
Anyone know what is going on?
Thanks in advance.
Stephan van den Akker
Have you tried creating a new user via Yast (via cli) and see if the new user has the same issue? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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On Sunday 13 Sep 2015 15:44:04 Stephan van den Akker wrote:
@Raymond: top reports systemd, kthreadd, ksoftirqd, kworker, rcu* etc..
CPU is at < 1% most of the time. I noticed that during the first reboot after the update baloo was quite active indexing files. It was the reason I left it on during the night. No activitity any more now.
xsession-errors doesn't seem to contain a lot of errors AFAICS
@ian:
New user has the same problem (hangs). No kded5 errors in the journal if I log in as this new user.
Oh damn, it was just an idea. I had an issue with login, similar to yours but not as terminal, earlier this year when it was getting to 85% extremely quickly then taking about 30 seconds to do the last 15%. I couldn't find any issues in the logs either. It looks as if some programs aren't perhaps logging as well as they should. One day it just went away and now it works fast all the way to the desktop.
2015-09-13 15:23 GMT+02:00 ianseeks <ianseeks@yahoo.co.uk>:
On Saturday 12 Sep 2015 10:02:31 Stephan van den Akker wrote:
Last night I updated KDE from 5.3 to 5.4 on my 64-bit Tumbleweed system. After restarting the KDE workspace now hangs at startup with the progress indicator at about 90%.
In the systemd journal I noticed this kde5 entry, but I don't know if it is related to the hang: QT: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL
Anyone know what is going on?
Thanks in advance.
Stephan van den Akker
Have you tried creating a new user via Yast (via cli) and see if the new user has the same issue? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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Op zondag 13 september 2015 15:44:04 schreef Stephan van den Akker:
@Raymond: top reports systemd, kthreadd, ksoftirqd, kworker, rcu* etc..
CPU is at < 1% most of the time. I noticed that during the first reboot after the update baloo was quite active indexing files. It was the reason I left it on during the night. No activitity any more now.
xsession-errors doesn't seem to contain a lot of errors AFAICS @Stephan:
The videocard ( and if nvidia whether it's using nouveau or the NVIDIA blob. -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht Official openSUSE Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
It's Intel with the open source drivers. Anyway, IceWM still works, the system reacts to me pressing Alt-Ctrl-Backspace so I'm pretty sure it's not X or the video drivers that cause the problem. 2015-09-13 16:31 GMT+02:00 Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink <knurpht@opensuse.org>:
Op zondag 13 september 2015 15:44:04 schreef Stephan van den Akker:
@Raymond: top reports systemd, kthreadd, ksoftirqd, kworker, rcu* etc..
CPU is at < 1% most of the time. I noticed that during the first reboot after the update baloo was quite active indexing files. It was the reason I left it on during the night. No activitity any more now.
xsession-errors doesn't seem to contain a lot of errors AFAICS @Stephan:
The videocard ( and if nvidia whether it's using nouveau or the NVIDIA blob. -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht
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