* Felix Miata [01-01-15 12:42]:

Patrick Shanahan composed on 2015-01-01 12:30 (UTC-0500):

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* Ludwig Nussel [12-31-14 11:38]:

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Changed packages:

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NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.65.run (the hard way)

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system boots to runlevel 3, I guess that is multi-user.target

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change to graphical.target manually

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Updated to 20141230 yesterday and since have been unable to get past the log-in prompt after changeing to graphical.target. I get the layered green background and the log-in prompt and it accepts my name and password but then just sets with the layered green background and no activity.

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rcxdm restart gives me another log-in prompt with same results

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as does: rckdm restart

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I am able to to access openbox-kde from multiuser.target via: startx /usr/bin/openbox-kde -- :0

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I can also start icewm, twm

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but startx /usr/bin/kde4 -- :0 does not work, sometimes providing the layered green background and sometimes just a black screen.

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I have reinstalled the NVidia driver several times w/o an error.

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#> lsmod |grep nv nvidia_uvm 43258 2 nvidia 10569405 41 nvidia_uvm drm 346298 2 nvidia

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Xorg.0.log.old from last graphical.target attempt is at: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/Xorg.0.log.old

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I am lost. What to do next?

Does this help?

Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Disable" EndSection

AFAIK, of those you tried, only KDE4 ever employs compositing.

Tks, but I neglected to answer that I have *no* xorg.conf. Are you suggesting that I generate one and if so, should I use nvidia-xconfig or ?? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 01/01/2015 01:13 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Patrick Shanahan [01-01-15 12:55]:

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* Felix Miata [01-01-15 12:42]: [...]

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#> lsmod |grep nv nvidia_uvm 43258 2 nvidia 10569405 41 nvidia_uvm drm 346298 2 nvidia

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Xorg.0.log.old from last graphical.target attempt is at: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/Xorg.0.log.old

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I am lost. What to do next?

Does this help?

Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Disable" EndSection

AFAIK, of those you tried, only KDE4 ever employs compositing.

Tks, but I neglected to answer that I have *no* xorg.conf. Are you suggesting that I generate one and if so, should I use nvidia-xconfig or ??

Guess I should also mention that I had the "composting" disabled in kde, but none of the other window-managers will open in runlevel 5, icewm, openbox(-kde) or twm.

Does it boot to graphical in recovery mode? Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Roman Bysh [01-01-15 14:32]:

On 01/01/2015 01:13 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Patrick Shanahan [01-01-15 12:55]:

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* Felix Miata [01-01-15 12:42]: [...]

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#> lsmod |grep nv nvidia_uvm 43258 2 nvidia 10569405 41 nvidia_uvm drm 346298 2 nvidia

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Xorg.0.log.old from last graphical.target attempt is at: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/Xorg.0.log.old

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I am lost. What to do next?

Does this help?

Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Disable" EndSection

AFAIK, of those you tried, only KDE4 ever employs compositing.

Tks, but I neglected to answer that I have *no* xorg.conf. Are you suggesting that I generate one and if so, should I use nvidia-xconfig or ??

Guess I should also mention that I had the "composting" disabled in kde, but none of the other window-managers will open in runlevel 5, icewm, openbox(-kde) or twm.

Does it boot to graphical in recovery mode?

yes but appears no window manager is running. There is no trim on the single xterm window present. And, if I drop to ttyX leaving runlevel 5, I cannot start say icewm: /usr/bin/icewm -- :1 It reports: IceWM: Can't open display: <none>. X must be running and $DISPLAY set. but in the "failsafe" runlevel 5 login, the xterm window provides ":0". presently have openbox-kde running in :1 (tty3). I can start konsole in the failsave xterm window but cannot make it current, cannot type in it. I can mouse click there and get menues. I can start a larger xterm instance and it becomes current and am able to type into it. tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

El Jueves, 1 de enero de 2015 12:55:49 Patrick Shanahan escribió:

* Felix Miata [01-01-15 12:42]:

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Patrick Shanahan composed on 2015-01-01 12:30 (UTC-0500):

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* Ludwig Nussel [12-31-14 11:38]:

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Changed packages:

==== libSDL-1_2-0 ==== Subpackages: libSDL-devel

NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.65.run (the hard way)

system boots to runlevel 3, I guess that is multi-user.target

change to graphical.target manually

Updated to 20141230 yesterday and since have been unable to get past the log-in prompt after changeing to graphical.target. I get the layered green background and the log-in prompt and it accepts my name and password but then just sets with the layered green background and no activity.

rcxdm restart gives me another log-in prompt with same results

as does: rckdm restart

I am able to to access openbox-kde from multiuser.target via: startx /usr/bin/openbox-kde -- :0

I can also start icewm, twm

but

startx /usr/bin/kde4 -- :0

does not work, sometimes providing the layered green background and sometimes just a black screen.

I have reinstalled the NVidia driver several times w/o an error.

#> lsmod |grep nv nvidia_uvm 43258 2 nvidia 10569405 41 nvidia_uvm drm 346298 2 nvidia

Xorg.0.log.old from last graphical.target attempt is at: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/Xorg.0.log.old

I am lost. What to do next?

Does this help?

Section "Extensions"

Option "Composite" "Disable"

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AFAIK, of those you tried, only KDE4 ever employs compositing.

Tks, but I neglected to answer that I have *no* xorg.conf. Are you suggesting that I generate one and if so, should I use nvidia-xconfig or ??

Hi. IIRC, you just need to create a file named disable-composite.conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d with the content provided by Felix Miata. Greetings. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Felix Miata [01-01-15 15:50]:

Patrick Shanahan composed on 2015-01-01 12:55 (UTC-0500):

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Xorg.0.log.old from last graphical.target attempt is at: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/Xorg.0.log.old

If you would append .txt to that, or configure Apache to type it as text/plain, people would be able to open it directly in a browser instead of having to download it first.

Since I have already advertised, I will leave it. But in the future I will try to remember. :^)

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I am lost. What to do next?

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Does this help?

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Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Disable" EndSection

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AFAIK, of those you tried, only KDE4 ever employs compositing.

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Tks, but I neglected to answer that I have *no* xorg.conf. Are you suggesting that I generate one and if so, should I use nvidia-xconfig or ??

I wasn't aware that a config file had become unnecessary for X to function properly using the NVidia proprietary driver. As a normal matter of course I put that bit in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/70-extensions.conf, but sometimes have it in xorg.conf. I find most bling to be highly annoying, and useless overhead.

Patrick Shanahan composed on 2015-01-01 13:13 (UTC-0500):

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Guess I should also mention that I had the "composting" disabled in kde,

Are you sure your brain isn't composting from celbratory imbibing? I wasn't aware composting could be done with a puter. :-p

At my age, anything is possible :^)

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but none of the other window-managers will open in runlevel 5, icewm, openbox(-kde) or twm.

If you mean selecting any as optional session instead of Plasma default, it sounds like KDM is what's broken. Maybe try enabling BS KDE (aka beyond Tumbleweed, to Factory), duping to it, then trying again.

My repos point to factory. Sometime past Greg KH advised moving to factory as Tw was going away, and then it was announced that factory and Tw would become the same. But my recent attempts to migrate my repos back to Tw have met with much failure :^(

Something else to try is find kdmrc and set UseTheme=false.

I will try this next and advise. tks

Does it work if you uninstall NVidia and use nouveau?

I also attempted this but was not able to achieve. Can you provide guidance. tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Felix Miata [01-01-15 18:15]:

Patrick Shanahan composed on 2015-01-01 16:24 (UTC-0500): [...]

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Does it work if you uninstall NVidia and use nouveau?

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I also attempted this but was not able to achieve.

Nvidia uninstall script failed? Not able in what way(s)?

No, uninstall of nvidia driver with script is simple, but enabling nouveau proved beyond my efforts/ability....

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Can you provide guidance.

Above steps should do it. Trying to recreate your broken state here in order to try and fix it would probably be wasted effort without a gfxchip similar to yours. All my nvidia chips are relatively old or older and run satisfactorily on Nouveau. I've only ever installed proprietary Nvidia driver once, and that on a machine not my own. Thus my experience with removing it is slight.

I will hesitate somewhat before the more radical step of going only to oss, non-oss and update as I have considerable alterations which previously caused almost no problems. Week before Christams I tried returning to *only* Tw repos and it failed althought it is *supposed* to be equal. I now have only factory repos. Present work schedule is somewhat difficult. tks, I may be forced to go that route. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Felix Miata [01-02-15 00:22]:

Patrick Shanahan composed on 2015-01-01 19:42 (UTC-0500):

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Nvidia uninstall script failed? Not able in what way(s)?

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No, uninstall of nvidia driver with script is simple, but enabling nouveau proved beyond my efforts/ability....

Maybe on any given day, but surely not on better days. I have no problem making nouveau work without having ever had nvidia installed just as easily as intel and radeon. Beyond my desire to force DPI up, nouveau on a GT8600 and a single display works entirely automatigically. Maybe my log would be useful if and when you wish to try again: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/xorg.0.log-os133-nvG84-1920x1080x120

Note that the prior boot on that machine was using intel video. I put the GT8600 in it purely to follow up here, and needed to do nothing more than boot to graphical to get it. No reconfiguring of anything was necessary for nouveau to take over from intel. Note too that the machine didn't even have Tumbleweed aka Factory on it when this thread started. It really shouldn't be hard for other mortals to get nouveau to work. If it is, people need to beat on NVidia to fix its installation and/or uninstallation routines, or better yet, make its proprietary driver entirely pointless.

I failed in my limited capabilities to revert to nourveau. :^(

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I will hesitate somewhat before the more radical step of going only to oss, non-oss and update as I have considerable alterations which previously caused almost no problems. Week before Christams I tried returning to *only* Tw repos and it failed althought it is *supposed* to be equal. I now have only factory repos. Present work schedule is somewhat difficult.

FWIW in case you weren't already aware, disabling any repo can be a simple as adding or removing a character from the repo's filename in /etc/zypp/repos.d/. I don't go through the rigamarole of copy, paste, zypper ar, zypper rr or whatever. I just mc into /etc/zypp/repos.d/ and F3, F4, Shift-F3, Shift-F4 and/or FTP .repo files from LAN server or mirrors as required to change whatever needs changing.

Yes, I even maintain separate sets of repos.d for "odd" situations. I finally reinstalled using a usb stick with 3.2 and changed repos to Tw. Slowly reinstalling odd apps and configurations as the need arises. Tks for the help/suggestions. ps: Evaluating nouveau for my graphics/picture work before installing NVidia packages. Running a time related test atm. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org