On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Nelson Marques wrote:

Hi Mariusz, (CC to Factory)

For a long time that no one has worked on the MATE packages... I had some free time this weekend and moved all the packages to GNOME:Cinnamon:MATE where they are supposed to be. I've also updated all the packages to 1.2.x and those with version 1.3.x available wered updated to 1.3. I've finally fixed the the damned schema installation and converted the old gconf macros to mateconf. How does this works? Kinda easy....

 - the RPM macros for mateconf are installed by mate-conf, so you need it as build requires (BuildRequires: pkgconfig(mateconf-2.0));  - Add %mateconf_schemas_requires to preamble;  - Add %find_mateconf_schemas to %install  - Add the following for the RPM transaction:   + %pre -f %{name}.schemas_pre   + %preun -f %{name}.schemas_preun   + %posttrans -f %{name}.schemas_posttrans  - Add -f %{name}.schemas_list to %files on the packages where you want the schemas

This fixes the royal nightmare created with the schemas... I've dropped the crap tools we were using (python scripts) for this task... This should be way more fun now to make packages and ensure the stuff is done properly (credits goes to people who worked on the original gconf macros, I've only modified them for MATE).

If you want to see this file: http://goo.gl/ZkEuR

It's in full rebuild right now... But I am assuming once it's rebuilded it should work properly for anyone who installs it. If not, I'll hammer it a bit more. Many spec files need some optimizations... I'll do that while updating to 1.3.

While this is OK for distribution through the repository, for inclusion on openSUSE a lot more needs to be done so we can present a few packages to Marcus team for evaluation and see if they accept our DBus services and Polkit stuff.

For now, that's pretty much it, and I expect it to be usable once the rebuild finishes... No patterns so far, I will do them later as we're missing some packages...

WARNING: The default looks are probably gonna scare people since I didn't integrated the normal branding and we're most likely missing themes... use the tools from 'mate-conf-editor' (mateconf-editor) to edit the stuff you need... It's the same stuff as gconf-editor :)

I've built a lot of stuff (and changed the default window manager to metacity, so we can test with Compiz that Kai is working on), there's a lot of packages missing (many add doubled functionality). I'm not in for doubling functionality... How stupid is it to supply a fork of GEdit (while we have a better option with GNOME3, and it works), Evince (FFS... kids with too much time), and others... My stance towards this... is screw the forkers and use the real stuff from GNOME3... I don't care if upstream wants to provide a full GTK2 experience (what the hell are they smoking? probably the same as I do)... We'll provide MATE using all the stuff we can from GNOME3 and openSUSE... and so far it's possible.

NM

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Looks great! I might take a shot at putting this as an option in my Computational Journalism Server on SUSE Studio. Right now I only have LXDE but my plan is to add other lightweight desktops. The only "hard requirement" I've put on a desktop is that it plays well when run as a VMware Workstation / Player guest in "Unity" mode and with VirtualBox in "Seamless" mode. That forced me out of my first choice, WindowMaker. ;-) -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/znmeb Computational Journalism Server http://j.mp/compjournoserver Data is the new coal - abundant, dirty and difficult to mine. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

It's far from being ready for production... While people can install it (when it finishes rebuild) for a test ride, and for checking out/hammering the stuff that is failing... I wouldn't still raise much expectations... Like spartan children... if it has too many defects... it dies and never sees daylight :) NM 2012/6/17 M. Edward (Ed) Borasky :

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Nelson Marques wrote:

...

Hi Mariusz, (CC to Factory)

For a long time that no one has worked on the MATE packages... I had some free time this weekend and moved all the packages to GNOME:Cinnamon:MATE where they are supposed to be. I've also updated all the packages to 1.2.x and those with version 1.3.x available wered updated to 1.3. I've finally fixed the the damned schema installation and converted the old gconf macros to mateconf. How does this works? Kinda easy....

 - the RPM macros for mateconf are installed by mate-conf, so you need it as build requires (BuildRequires: pkgconfig(mateconf-2.0));  - Add %mateconf_schemas_requires to preamble;  - Add %find_mateconf_schemas to %install  - Add the following for the RPM transaction:   + %pre -f %{name}.schemas_pre   + %preun -f %{name}.schemas_preun   + %posttrans -f %{name}.schemas_posttrans  - Add -f %{name}.schemas_list to %files on the packages where you want the schemas

This fixes the royal nightmare created with the schemas... I've dropped the crap tools we were using (python scripts) for this task... This should be way more fun now to make packages and ensure the stuff is done properly (credits goes to people who worked on the original gconf macros, I've only modified them for MATE).

If you want to see this file: http://goo.gl/ZkEuR

It's in full rebuild right now... But I am assuming once it's rebuilded it should work properly for anyone who installs it. If not, I'll hammer it a bit more. Many spec files need some optimizations... I'll do that while updating to 1.3.

While this is OK for distribution through the repository, for inclusion on openSUSE a lot more needs to be done so we can present a few packages to Marcus team for evaluation and see if they accept our DBus services and Polkit stuff.

For now, that's pretty much it, and I expect it to be usable once the rebuild finishes... No patterns so far, I will do them later as we're missing some packages...

WARNING: The default looks are probably gonna scare people since I didn't integrated the normal branding and we're most likely missing themes... use the tools from 'mate-conf-editor' (mateconf-editor) to edit the stuff you need... It's the same stuff as gconf-editor :)

I've built a lot of stuff (and changed the default window manager to metacity, so we can test with Compiz that Kai is working on), there's a lot of packages missing (many add doubled functionality). I'm not in for doubling functionality... How stupid is it to supply a fork of GEdit (while we have a better option with GNOME3, and it works), Evince (FFS... kids with too much time), and others... My stance towards this... is screw the forkers and use the real stuff from GNOME3... I don't care if upstream wants to provide a full GTK2 experience (what the hell are they smoking? probably the same as I do)... We'll provide MATE using all the stuff we can from GNOME3 and openSUSE... and so far it's possible.

NM

-- Nelson Marques // I've stopped trying to understand sandwiches with a third piece of bread in the middle... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Looks great! I might take a shot at putting this as an option in my Computational Journalism Server on SUSE Studio. Right now I only have LXDE but my plan is to add other lightweight desktops. The only "hard requirement" I've put on a desktop is that it plays well when run as a VMware Workstation / Player guest in "Unity" mode and with VirtualBox in "Seamless" mode. That forced me out of my first choice, WindowMaker. ;-)

-- Twitter: http://twitter.com/znmeb Computational Journalism Server http://j.mp/compjournoserver

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