[opensuse-factory] RFE : Artwork change default wallpaper from jpg to png
This mail thread should just collect the yes/no opinion of big team like kde/gnome/lxde/xfce I would like to introduce a change in the default format used for our default-wallpaper in openSUSE The facts Default jpeg (total ~4.1MB) Default png (total 4.7MB) Why : mainly for plymouth and grub2 the both could use png (plymouth mono png) Who : I can proceed to the change in artwork and the branding package (if any advise raise : hands up please) Advantage : Plymouth/grub2 will be able to use the default wallpaper then we earn some MB on liveCD etc ... For example bootsplash and grub have to use certain kind of jpg and they will continue. But if on livecd we drop bootsplash for plymouth we can win ~6MB more Your opinion ? -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 21:43:38 +0200 Bruno Friedmann wrote:
I would like to introduce a change in the default format used for our default-wallpaper in openSUSE
The facts Default jpeg (total ~4.1MB) Default png (total 4.7MB)
Have you tried 'optipng' or 'advancecomp' for reducing PNG size? Any way, PNG wins. -- WBR Kyrill -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 23 April 2012 00.40:49 Kyrill Detinov wrote:
On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 21:43:38 +0200 Bruno Friedmann wrote:
I would like to introduce a change in the default format used for our default-wallpaper in openSUSE
The facts Default jpeg (total ~4.1MB) Default png (total 4.7MB)
Have you tried 'optipng' or 'advancecomp' for reducing PNG size?
Any way, PNG wins.
-- WBR Kyrill
Kyrill thanks for the pointer ... Could be feasible at least and the result are quite good the sum of png is ~3.4MB now It takes time, but as it's not so frequently build ... time optipng -keep -preserve -nx -zc=9 -zm=9 -zs=1 -f=5 default-*.png OptiPNG 0.6.5: Advanced PNG optimizer. Copyright (C) 2001-2011 Cosmin Truta. ** Processing: default-1600x1200.png 1600x1200 pixels, 4x8 bits/pixel, RGB+alpha in opng_reduce_image_type in opng_validate_image in opng_reduce_bits in opng_analyze_bits Input IDAT size = 1207020 bytes Input file size = 1208915 bytes Trying: zc = 9 zm = 9 zs = 1 f = 5 IDAT size = 1116893 Selecting parameters: zc = 9 zm = 9 zs = 1 f = 5 IDAT size = 1116893 Output IDAT size = 1116893 bytes (90127 bytes decrease) Output file size = 1117024 bytes (91891 bytes = 7.60% decrease) ** Processing: default-1920x1080.png 1920x1080 pixels, 4x8 bits/pixel, RGB+alpha in opng_reduce_image_type in opng_validate_image in opng_reduce_bits in opng_analyze_bits Input IDAT size = 1283688 bytes Input file size = 1285691 bytes Trying: zc = 9 zm = 9 zs = 1 f = 5 IDAT size = 1188146 Selecting parameters: zc = 9 zm = 9 zs = 1 f = 5 IDAT size = 1188146 Output IDAT size = 1188146 bytes (95542 bytes decrease) Output file size = 1188277 bytes (97414 bytes = 7.58% decrease) ** Processing: default-1920x1200.png 1920x1200 pixels, 4x8 bits/pixel, RGB+alpha in opng_reduce_image_type in opng_validate_image in opng_reduce_bits in opng_analyze_bits Input IDAT size = 1396128 bytes Input file size = 1398299 bytes Trying: zc = 9 zm = 9 zs = 1 f = 5 IDAT size = 1292859 Selecting parameters: zc = 9 zm = 9 zs = 1 f = 5 IDAT size = 1292859 Output IDAT size = 1292859 bytes (103269 bytes decrease) Output file size = 1292990 bytes (105309 bytes = 7.53% decrease) real 0m54.617s user 0m54.551s sys 0m0.008s So png wins -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 21:43 +0200, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
Advantage : Plymouth/grub2 will be able to use the default wallpaper then we earn some MB on liveCD etc ...
For example bootsplash and grub have to use certain kind of jpg and they will continue. But if on livecd we drop bootsplash for plymouth we can win ~6MB more
Your opinion ?
Maybe I'm not reading this right. But a number of users, myself included, didn't care for bootsplash and desktop wallpaper being the same in 12.1. It got a bit confusing not being sure if the system is done booting yet. I thought some of the caretakers here were conscious of that and were planning to avoid that confusion in 12.2. I get the benefits of freeing up disk space though. Bryen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday 22 April 2012 16.52:40 Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 21:43 +0200, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
Advantage : Plymouth/grub2 will be able to use the default wallpaper then we earn some MB on liveCD etc ...
For example bootsplash and grub have to use certain kind of jpg and they will continue. But if on livecd we drop bootsplash for plymouth we can win ~6MB more
Your opinion ?
Maybe I'm not reading this right. But a number of users, myself included, didn't care for bootsplash and desktop wallpaper being the same in 12.1. It got a bit confusing not being sure if the system is done booting yet. I thought some of the caretakers here were conscious of that and were planning to avoid that confusion in 12.2.
I get the benefits of freeing up disk space though.
Bryen
Well it seems to be a bis-repetita for 12.2 the base grub splash, plymouth and kdm/gdm will be the same. Also after that part it's up to the user to change or keep the default wallpaper. I remember a lot of discussion on that subject and mostly the different desktop team can choose to stick to our actual way of doing things, or goes to what upstream propose. Bryen if really the fact, that the boot process (which is really quick on a simple desktop 12.2) and the desktop ready to use, cause trouble on end users, then it has to be clarify during M4 until M6/Beta phase, so it can be sorted out before the release I trust your marketing skills to find a way to inquiry users feedback. :-) -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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Bruno Friedmann -
Bryen M Yunashko -
Kyrill Detinov