Am Friday 10 October 2008 04:47:28 schrieb Pavol Rusnak:

Andreas wrote:

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It wouldn't bother me so much but I have several acrobat forms to check and fill out, and apparently only Adobe's Acrobat Reader can be used for that.

I think that kde4-okular can do that as well.

Yes, it does! Thank you very much! -- Gruß Andreas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Christoph-Erdmann Pfeiler wrote:

Gentle reader,

I cannot reach the machines within the SuSE Nuremberg network (as RIPE says). I was not able to reach anyone be phone. Please help and phone Christian Deckelmann or whoever is responsible. I've tested access from the Belwue net (Uni Karlsruhe) and Deutsche Telekom.

Thank You so much,

Yours sincerely

Christoph-Erdmann Pfeiler

http://news.opensuse.org/2008/10/10/power-outage-in-area-where-most-opensuse... -- Vahis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 21:46 +0200, Christoph-Erdmann Pfeiler wrote:

Gentle reader,

I cannot reach the machines within the SuSE Nuremberg network (as RIPE says). I was not able to reach anyone be phone. Please help and phone Christian Deckelmann or whoever is responsible.

Excuse me? Are you seriously suggesting that everyone should call "Christian Deckelmann or whoever is responsible" to say that the site(s) are not reachable? /Magnus Ps. news.opensuse.org is a wounderful site... Ds. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Well, where is it? I managed to find the new path to the factory repo, but all I see so far are folders for "oss" and "src".

It wouldn't bother me so much but I have several acrobat forms to check and fill out, and apparently only Adobe's Acrobat Reader can be used for

It's a real problem if non-oss won't be available until release. There is firmware in the non-oss section that is needed for some disk drivers to work. :( Fredag 10 oktober 2008 02:50:13 skrev Andreas: that. You can prolly use the 11.0 adobe reader rpm if you must. As I understand it, the 11.1 non-free repo won't be available until release. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11.10.2008 13:14, Hubert Figuiere wrote:

Which firmware? Even the wireless firmware packages are in oss.

And on LiveCDs? 11.0 GNOME LiveCD doesn't contain them :/ . - -- Pozdrawiam, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkjyXoEACgkQcLqbpHzJqIVq7QCeMQH/jF8Z/zYL0Ox2BbDNgaWg ff0AnR3KqddUelk/NwHQw1GEInJqnMSt =S7t7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12.10.2008 22:48, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

Please, when someone is making an effor to help you, and you deliberately evade answering, posing another question(s), you appear as a troll rather than someone *honestly* seeking assistance.

Provide the answer or drop the matter!

And if the tone of this post makes you unhappy, so be it. You don't belong here. Plain fact!

Sorry if it really looked so. My intention wasn't to make a problem. I'm just curious. - -- Pozdrawiam, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkjyZIsACgkQcLqbpHzJqIWCRACZActUVylszbkJG646l+a48wFz UvoAn19UefjuFNZHxDCuyzGgE4pQ7A1o =3Uz/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 12 October 2008 03:30:57 pm Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:

On 11.10.2008 13:14, Hubert Figuiere wrote:

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Which firmware? Even the wireless firmware packages are in oss.

And on LiveCDs? 11.0 GNOME LiveCD doesn't contain them :/ .

Jakub, Live CD has the same structure as installed system, so boot computer with Live CD and look for firmware in /lib/firmware/ directory . If your hardware is working with that one it should work with the same kernel in installed system. In case there is nothing, install it using 11.0 non-oss repository. While installed stuff will disappear when you turn computer off, it will at least tell you does your hardware work with openSUSE provided drivers and firmware. BTW, 11.0 has nothing to do with a Factory for a quite some time. If you have more questions please use opensuse@opensuse.org mail list for 11.0 and earlier versions. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 06:26:30PM -0700, Andreas wrote:

Am Saturday 11 October 2008 00:55:47 schrieb Martin Schlander:

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Fredag 10 oktober 2008 02:50:13 skrev Andreas:

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Well, where is it? I managed to find the new path to the factory repo, but all I see so far are folders for "oss" and "src".

It wouldn't bother me so much but I have several acrobat forms to check and fill out, and apparently only Adobe's Acrobat Reader can be used for that.

You can prolly use the 11.0 adobe reader rpm if you must. As I understand it, the 11.1 non-free repo won't be available until release.

I tried, and the dependencies don't fit: andreas@hal9001:~/Documents> rpm -Uhv --test acroread-8.1.2-34.1.i586.rpm error: Failed dependencies: libgtkembedmoz.so is needed by acroread-8.1.2-34.1.i586 libcrypto.so.0.9.7 is needed by acroread-8.1.2-34.1.i586 libssl.so.0.9.7 is needed by acroread-8.1.2-34.1.i586

But Pavol's idea with kde4-okular with right on target!

If you do zypper in acroread.... then it will pull the -32bit packags necessary. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Am Sonntag, 12. Oktober 2008 01:55:59 schrieb Marcus Meissner:

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You can prolly use the 11.0 adobe reader rpm if you must. As I understand it, the 11.1 non-free repo won't be available until release.

I tried, and the dependencies don't fit: andreas@hal9001:~/Documents> rpm -Uhv --test acroread-8.1.2-34.1.i586.rpm error: Failed dependencies: libgtkembedmoz.so is needed by acroread-8.1.2-34.1.i586 libcrypto.so.0.9.7 is needed by acroread-8.1.2-34.1.i586 libssl.so.0.9.7 is needed by acroread-8.1.2-34.1.i586

But Pavol's idea with kde4-okular with right on target!

If you do zypper in acroread.... then it will pull the -32bit packags necessary.

Thanks, Marcus. I did the "zypper in" and it actually worked, kind of. After pulling in the necessary dependencies, and before installing acroread, zyper have me this error message: Paket acroread-8.1.2-34.1.i586 abrufen (3/3), 0 B (0 B installiert) Pfad '/var/cache/zypper/RPMS' auf Medium 'dir:///var/cache/zypper/RPMS' ist keine Datei. Maybe a permission problem because I started zypper with sudo instead of a 'real' switch to root? Anyway, I then did a simple rpm -ivh acroread-8.1.2-34.1.i586.rpm and Acrobat Reader is now installed. But isn't it great that an open source tool like okular can now handle acrobat forms as well? I am totally amazed! -- Gruß Andreas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2008-10-12 at 02:45 -0700, Andreas wrote:

But isn't it great that an open source tool like okular can now handle acrobat forms as well? I am totally amazed!

Check the form carefully, comparing the same form displayed with acrobat. I found that evince also works with forms, but some things are displayed diferently enough for the form to at least be questioned at the receiving end. In fact, the same form I tested, that failed with evince, also fails with okular, in worse manner. It is useless for me, at least in 11.0, can't say with factory yet. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEUEARECAAYFAkjx4msACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XswACaA24sJ6t8Mducc3Mu9/gSUp7U rTgAlR7Z9OLYjeQRJWdyy5h2ivsGJ2s= =ocev -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2008-10-12 at 05:09 -0700, Andreas wrote:

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In fact, the same form I tested, that failed with evince, also fails with okular, in worse manner. It is useless for me, at least in 11.0, can't say with factory yet.

Thanks for the warning. Before I print & send the forms off, I will cross-check them with Acrobat Reader. And check them manually for any errors. The forms are immigration paperwork with the USCIS, and I really don't want to screw that up :)

There is a cute thing with Okular: it saves form data somewhere: when I load the form again, it is filled already. The data is not saved with the pdf, must be somewhere else, but I have no idea where. I fact, I don't know how to clear the form to fill another one. Weird. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjx8sEACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UvlwCff942dGbCsRpTMkbzGhTYmtDP LT4An3IcEZoyeAvhYBCaw3xk+y9PW4pq =u3SQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2008-10-12 at 14:43 -0700, Andreas wrote:

Am Sonntag, 12. Oktober 2008 05:51:10 schrieb Carlos E. R.:

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There is a cute thing with Okular: it saves form data somewhere: when I load the form again, it is filled already. The data is not saved with the pdf, must be somewhere else, but I have no idea where. I fact, I don't know how to clear the form to fill another one. Weird.

I found where the data is saved. Check $HOME/.kde4/share/apps/okular/docdata for xml files relating to the pdf's you filled out.

Ah? [...] Yes, you are right. And *chm files too, seems I opened one recently.

It is a somewhat peculiar way to deal with the forms. Makes it virtually impossible to have the forms filled out / shared on different computers.

Well... The data sometimes can be sensitive, so that okular saves it without notice could even be dangerous. I'd rather prefer to be asked where and whether to save form data. I'm not sure I like this feature. It can be useful, but also dangerous. I haven't even seen a button or menu entry to clear all data: suppose I have to fill a bunch of forms and leave data of one form in the next inadvertently. If the form is of any consequence, results could cause a lot of damage. Firefox/mozilla does this trick of remembering forms, but by default fields are empty. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjy/NwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VtDACcDeuT5SlBXeXHN0tk7JPXMB1y 71cAninvsYxxhpvIIyG1nGvqy2/0ylEe =mzHn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org