[opensuse-factory] 12.2 installation report
Hi Folks, I'm not sure this is the right place to report this and apologize in advance if factory is the wrong venue. I needed to purchase a new laptop for myself (not for work) last week and decided to get a fairly nice and current one. Settled on a Samsung 15-inch Series 9 NP900X4C-A01US. The important bits are its Intel HD Graphics 4000 system and an Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6235 for wifi and Bluetooth 4.0. It also has a 128-GB mSATA SSD and 8-GB of ram. It also came with Windows 7 Home 64, which I immediately blew away, of course. I had a bit of time and thought I'd try 12.2 beta (openSUSE-DVD-Build0452-x86_64.iso) on a lark. I figured that 12.2 would have a better chance of driving the 6235 wifi system. Alas, I couldn't get it installed. I tried two times, the first with a custom install using a 100-mb ext-2 boot partition, an 8-GB swap, a 24-GB root partition using Reiser with the free-hog for /export/home also with Reiser. The install proceeded to the first boot when it issued a warning that grub2 couldn't install on an unmountable partition. The screen gave me the option of changing things around and I then selected grub1. Grub seemed to work okay and a green screen with the Gecko and fuzzy white blobs floating around appeared. A white progress bar also appeared. I let it go for a bit but the only things that happened was the fuzzy blobs stopped moving around as much, but the progress bar continued to move right at a very slow pace. I hit escape at a point a couple of minutes into this and saw what appeared to be the kernel log spewing out boot information, but it seemed like it was in a loop. It was moving too fast for me to draw a bead on what it was saying. After what appeared to be a half-dozen loops the green Gecko screen reappeared and froze. Bummer. So I tried another install, this time going completely with the defaults. I didn't customize a thing. This time grub2 didn't complain and showed the new grub2 selection screen. I hit the default selection and it proceed to boot to the same green Gecko screen and froze. ESC did nothing. CTL/ALT/DEL didn't work, a hard power cycle was the only way to break the cycle. Bummer. Apparently grub2 doesn't grok Reiserfs, even with an ext-2 /boot. So I tried a new install with 12.1 and things went well enough. Bluetooth worked (mouse), sound worked, and the function key volume controls work. Initially the screen brightness buttons worked, but after a zypper dup they failed. More importantly, wifi doesn't work. The kernel sees the chipset and tries to bring it up, but fails. The latest Knoppix also fails wifi. Graphics work well enough, but glxgears shows a frame rate of about 58 frames per second. The screen seems okay, however. I'd be happy to file a bug report, but there's not enough for me to hang a bug on, that I can see. Just "install fails, green Gecko gets in way of seeing action". I hate to admit this, but my 8-year old grand daughter was clamoring to use the new laptop, so I tried Ubuntu. It installed easily and everything works as intended. Even the web cam. (didn't try the mic) I've been using SuSE since 5.2 and have made hundreds of installs. I don't intended to change, but that Ubuntu install sure was slick... My grand daughter has been using openSuSE since she was 4-years old, but I'd rather she use Ubuntu than Windows. I've got a desktop at work that needs an install, I'll try 12.2 again and see what happens. Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/07/12 17:03, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
I'm not sure this is the right place to report this and apologize in advance if factory is the wrong venue.
No, this is the correct list to talk about something which is yet to be released. [.....]
Alas, I couldn't get it installed. I tried two times, the first with a custom install using a 100-mb ext-2 boot partition, an 8-GB swap, a 24-GB root partition using Reiser with the free-hog for /export/home also with Reiser.
I just (re-)installed Beta #2 a few days ago, but on a desktop. I do not have any boot partition - I simply allowed the partitioner to "create" a swap partition, a /home partition, and the /root partition in the sizes it decided I needed for my 1TB HDD. I use ext4 and not reiserfs.
The install proceeded to the first boot when it issued a warning that grub2 couldn't install on an unmountable partition.
I think that this is where the problem lies. Do NOT use Grub2. Use the (original) grub. Posts here from various people have indicated that grub2 has problems. During the installation process, when you get the menu immediately before you actually confirm that you want to install the system, edit the Boot Loader and choose Grub and not the default Grub2.
The screen gave me the option of changing things around and I then selected grub1.
OK, I see that you did try this.
Grub seemed to work okay and a green screen with the Gecko and fuzzy white blobs floating around appeared. A white progress bar also appeared. I let it go for a bit but the only things that happened was the fuzzy blobs stopped moving around as much, but the progress bar continued to move right at a very slow pace.
At the end of the first stage of the installation you are told that the system will now reboot. In my case this is simply a nothing-statement as the system does NOT reboot - I have to manually reboot the system. BUT it is here that you need to do following to get beyond the system going into slow-as-molasses mode after the blobs finally come together into a single blob: at the grub boot menu add the command 'nomodeset' OR boot using the SAFE MODE. Once the rest of the installation is completed, install the correct video driver for your system. [.............] BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.8.4 and kernel 3.4.4 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 12:03:46AM -0700, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
I'm not sure this is the right place to report this and apologize in advance if factory is the wrong venue.
I needed to purchase a new laptop for myself (not for work) last week and decided to get a fairly nice and current one. Settled on a Samsung 15-inch Series 9 NP900X4C-A01US. The important bits are its Intel HD Graphics 4000 system and an Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6235 for wifi and Bluetooth 4.0. It also has a 128-GB mSATA SSD and 8-GB of ram.
It also came with Windows 7 Home 64, which I immediately blew away, of course. I had a bit of time and thought I'd try 12.2 beta (openSUSE-DVD-Build0452-x86_64.iso) on a lark. I figured that 12.2 would have a better chance of driving the 6235 wifi system.
Alas, I couldn't get it installed. I tried two times, the first with a custom install using a 100-mb ext-2 boot partition, an 8-GB swap, a 24-GB root partition using Reiser with the free-hog for /export/home also with Reiser. The install proceeded to the first boot when it issued a warning that grub2 couldn't install on an unmountable partition. The screen gave me the
You scenario should be supported, the fail is not expected and tolerable. Maybe the fail was grub2 tried to mount the partition using it's buitin fs module and somehow the test is fail, I can't tell anything in advance because both ext2 and reiserfs are supported by grub2. :( Would it be still possible for you to attach log or file a bug, I'd like to debug it. As I know we have no similar bug report in bugzilla so it's important to get things sorted out. All necessary logs are under /var/log/YaST2/ I would try re-create your scenario, and see if I could reproduce it. looks to me like this? sda1 ext2 /boot 100mb * (bootable) sda2 swap 8G sda3 reiserfs / 24G sda4 reiserfs /home free-hog Or do you use any extended|logical partition?
option of changing things around and I then selected grub1. Grub seemed to work okay and a green screen with the Gecko and fuzzy white blobs floating around appeared. A white progress bar also appeared. I let it go for a bit but the only things that happened was the fuzzy blobs stopped moving around as much, but the progress bar continued to move right at a very slow pace. I hit escape at a point a couple of minutes into this and saw what appeared to be the kernel log spewing out boot information, but it seemed like it was in a loop. It was moving too fast for me to draw a bead on what it was saying. After what appeared to be a half-dozen loops the green Gecko screen reappeared and froze.
Probably bnc#768185 ?
Bummer.
So I tried another install, this time going completely with the defaults. I didn't customize a thing. This time grub2 didn't complain and showed the new grub2 selection screen. I hit the default selection and it proceed to boot to the same green Gecko screen and froze. ESC did nothing. CTL/ALT/DEL didn't work, a hard power cycle was the only way to break the cycle.
Bummer. Apparently grub2 doesn't grok Reiserfs, even with an ext-2 /boot.
It should be supported.
So I tried a new install with 12.1 and things went well enough. Bluetooth worked (mouse), sound worked, and the function key volume controls work. Initially the screen brightness buttons worked, but after a zypper dup they failed. More importantly, wifi doesn't work. The kernel sees the chipset and tries to bring it up, but fails. The latest Knoppix also fails wifi. Graphics work well enough, but glxgears shows a frame rate of about 58 frames per second. The screen seems okay, however.
I'd be happy to file a bug report, but there's not enough for me to hang a bug on, that I can see. Just "install fails, green Gecko gets in way of seeing action".
I hate to admit this, but my 8-year old grand daughter was clamoring to use the new laptop, so I tried Ubuntu. It installed easily and everything works as intended. Even the web cam. (didn't try the mic) I've been using SuSE since 5.2 and have made hundreds of installs. I don't intended to change, but that Ubuntu install sure was slick... My grand daughter has been using openSuSE since she was 4-years old, but I'd rather she use Ubuntu than Windows.
I'm sorry about make you disappoint, hope could do something to compensate the loss, we did care about it. Thanks to reporting it, Regards, Michael
I've got a desktop at work that needs an install, I'll try 12.2 again and see what happens.
Regards, Lew
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2012/7/3 Michael Chang <mchang@suse.com>:
On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 12:03:46AM -0700, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
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I would try re-create your scenario, and see if I could reproduce it. looks to me like this?
sda1 ext2 /boot 100mb * (bootable) sda2 swap 8G sda3 reiserfs / 24G sda4 reiserfs /home free-hog
Just tried above scenario and bump to grub2-setup fail message. I think this is reported and fixed by 2.0 update .. see bnc#765198. It seems to me that the grub2's ext2 fs module has problem on supporting blocklist installation and unstable. And 2.0 fixed it by os native ioctl to retrieve blocklist. Please try RC1 when it's out. And let me know if it still can't work. Thanks, Michael
Or do you use any extended|logical partition?
option of changing things around and I then selected grub1. Grub seemed to work okay and a green screen with the Gecko and fuzzy white blobs floating around appeared. A white progress bar also appeared. I let it go for a bit but the only things that happened was the fuzzy blobs stopped moving around as much, but the progress bar continued to move right at a very slow pace. I hit escape at a point a couple of minutes into this and saw what appeared to be the kernel log spewing out boot information, but it seemed like it was in a loop. It was moving too fast for me to draw a bead on what it was saying. After what appeared to be a half-dozen loops the green Gecko screen reappeared and froze.
Probably bnc#768185 ?
Bummer.
So I tried another install, this time going completely with the defaults. I didn't customize a thing. This time grub2 didn't complain and showed the new grub2 selection screen. I hit the default selection and it proceed to boot to the same green Gecko screen and froze. ESC did nothing. CTL/ALT/DEL didn't work, a hard power cycle was the only way to break the cycle.
Bummer. Apparently grub2 doesn't grok Reiserfs, even with an ext-2 /boot.
It should be supported.
So I tried a new install with 12.1 and things went well enough. Bluetooth worked (mouse), sound worked, and the function key volume controls work. Initially the screen brightness buttons worked, but after a zypper dup they failed. More importantly, wifi doesn't work. The kernel sees the chipset and tries to bring it up, but fails. The latest Knoppix also fails wifi. Graphics work well enough, but glxgears shows a frame rate of about 58 frames per second. The screen seems okay, however.
I'd be happy to file a bug report, but there's not enough for me to hang a bug on, that I can see. Just "install fails, green Gecko gets in way of seeing action".
I hate to admit this, but my 8-year old grand daughter was clamoring to use the new laptop, so I tried Ubuntu. It installed easily and everything works as intended. Even the web cam. (didn't try the mic) I've been using SuSE since 5.2 and have made hundreds of installs. I don't intended to change, but that Ubuntu install sure was slick... My grand daughter has been using openSuSE since she was 4-years old, but I'd rather she use Ubuntu than Windows.
I'm sorry about make you disappoint, hope could do something to compensate the loss, we did care about it.
Thanks to reporting it,
Regards, Michael
I've got a desktop at work that needs an install, I'll try 12.2 again and see what happens.
Regards, Lew
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On 2012/07/03 00:03 (GMT-0700) Lew Wolfgang composed:
I'd be happy to file a bug report, but there's not enough for me to hang a bug on, that I can see. Just "install fails, green Gecko gets in way of seeing action".
I've done lots of 12.2 installs, though none on laptops or with wifi. I suggest you try as I always do: configure cmdline with splash=verbose and without quiet, at least temporarily to see if what you're seeing is a Plymouth bug. With those cmdline options I use, Plymouth is apparently a noop, and if something is hanging, I get to see where if not what. If that doesn't help, hit the F5 key at the Grub menu and select System V to see if systemd is your problem. If it is, file a bug with y2logs attached, and install sysvinit-init to get you by in the mean time. - "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/03/2012 12:03 AM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
I'm not sure this is the right place to report this and apologize in advance if factory is the wrong venue.
Hi Folks, My thanks to Basil, Michael and Felix for replying. I'll summarize here. First, the new laptop that started all this isn't available for me to fiddle with any more. My grand daughter has taken it over and it's in "production". So I won't be able to try any of the suggestions in the original environment. But I've got access to some older laptops at work and will see what I can come up with. I wish I could try nomodeset and verbose to see what was really going on, will try that next time. It would have been great to get the system up far enough to actually see the log files, I guess didn't wait long enough? My fail-to-boot problem really sounds like bnc#768185, as Michael guessed. Michael asked if this was my original config: sda1 ext2 /boot 100mb * (bootable) sda2 swap 8G sda3 reiserfs / 24G sda4 reiserfs /home free-hog Yes, this was it! I've been in the habit of using a small /boot with ext-2 since I was bitten by a reiserfs bug about four years ago. I think Michael's guess about bnc#765198 is right on. So my first install probably encountered #765198, followed by #768185 after I choose grub1. Michael also said: "I'm sorry about make you disappoint, hope could do something to compensate the loss, we did care about it." No need to apologize, Michael! I feel guilty about not doing more to help the community over the years. I don't have the time to really get into the details, but if I can help by offering the perspective of a new-bee, I'm all over it! Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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