[opensuse-factory] Status: Distribution
Hi, Even though there are some glitches in Factory, I decided that Build 957 is good enough to wear the milestone label. The issues I'm aware of: - the kernel panics Jeff and co are debugging - inkscape did not build and is now uninstallable - kde games are not installable - artwork is now a mixture of 11.3 and 11.4 (actually something I wanted to have, I'm just mentioning it here so that people do not file bugs right away :) - some kde plasma crash we may need to prepare an update for - XFCE is pretty much uninstallable - mozilla 4.0 is pretty raw - as is KDE 4.6 ;) So all in all I'm very happy the release is in 2011 not now, but for a milestone a rather usable release (and it's already in factory-tested afaik). Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 15. Dezember 2010 schrieb Stephan Kulow:
Hi,
Even though there are some glitches in Factory, I decided that Build 957 is good enough to wear the milestone label.
For those only reading -factory: I posted to opensuse-project asking about the future version. I think the discussion about that belongs to the project as a whole, not just the developers, so if you have an oppinion about it, please subscribe to -project and discuss there (you may set your address to nomail after a result :) Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Le mercredi 15 décembre 2010, à 16:31 +0100, Stephan Kulow a écrit :
Hi,
Even though there are some glitches in Factory, I decided that Build 957 is good enough to wear the milestone label.
The issues I'm aware of: - the kernel panics Jeff and co are debugging - inkscape did not build and is now uninstallable
Can we use this opportunity to test the maintenance update process for this version of openSUSE? ;-) (and provide an installable version of inkscape to users this way, obviously) Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2010 schrieb Vincent Untz:
Le mercredi 15 décembre 2010, à 16:31 +0100, Stephan Kulow a écrit :
Hi,
Even though there are some glitches in Factory, I decided that Build 957 is good enough to wear the milestone label.
The issues I'm aware of: - the kernel panics Jeff and co are debugging - inkscape did not build and is now uninstallable
Can we use this opportunity to test the maintenance update process for this version of openSUSE? ;-) (and provide an installable version of inkscape to users this way, obviously)
You know how the opensuse maintenace works I suppose, so NEEDINFO the bug :) Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am 15.12.2010 16:31, schrieb Stephan Kulow:
Hi,
Even though there are some glitches in Factory, I decided that Build 957 is good enough to wear the milestone label.
The issues I'm aware of: - the kernel panics Jeff and co are debugging - inkscape did not build and is now uninstallable - kde games are not installable - artwork is now a mixture of 11.3 and 11.4 (actually something I wanted to have, I'm just mentioning it here so that people do not file bugs right away :) - some kde plasma crash we may need to prepare an update for - XFCE is pretty much uninstallable - mozilla 4.0 is pretty raw - as is KDE 4.6 ;)
So all in all I'm very happy the release is in 2011 not now, but for a milestone a rather usable release (and it's already in factory-tested afaik).
Greetings, Stephan
I also put one more known issue on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Most_annoying_bugs_11.4_dev and yes, this version was in factory-tested (it usually takes 4-5h for testing all six variants once a new version of factory is published). IMHO, if a version would not meet the minimum QA requirements of factory-tested, it would not make a good milestone and should probably be delayed some days to address those issues. Overall, I am in favour of a development model that is more like the one of the Linux kernel - i.e. 2 weeks of merge window and 6+ weeks of stabilizing (or maybe half of each to keep our 3-4 week cadence of milestones... or even just a few more days for testing+bugfixing might make a big difference). Because with Factory, there is usually a big rush of submit requests around the deadline (2-3 days before release) which introduces a lot of code that has not been tested by a wider audience. If those submits break the building (which needs some time to fix), there might only be one or two days left for testing before a milestone release. I remember several annoying bugs introduced that way. Of course they might be fixed a few days later, but if people use just milestones they would see something that is often broken in varying ways. Ciao Bernhard M. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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Bernhard M. Wiedemann
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Stephan Kulow
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Vincent Untz