[opensuse-factory] RFC: Tomorrows dist meeting
I have so far the the following topics for tomorrows meeting: * Enabling more network services to be Network manager aware, e.g. ntp and autofs * checkin policy for specific projects and how to track them Current example is postgresql. [I don't have details for this one yet] * AppArmor: Move the profiles from the single package to the packages they belong to * Faster booting? What can be done here? * Shrink the basepackages With todays changes we seem to be able to do a self-contained build of base with just 72 source packages (spec files). By heavily stripping the set of basepacks of course. And we have side-by-side compiles against the openSUSE config to compare logfiles (no differences sofar). Any comments for these already? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jaeger schreef:
I have so far the the following topics for tomorrows meeting:
* Enabling more network services to be Network manager aware, e.g. ntp and autofs
Network should go up automaticly, after wake from suspend to disk, now this has to be done manualy.
* checkin policy for specific projects and how to track them Current example is postgresql. [I don't have details for this one yet]
* AppArmor: Move the profiles from the single package to the packages they belong to
* Faster booting? What can be done here?
Creation of a configfile, from the detection at installtime, in which the HW is listed, and the order of connecting. (boot.ini?, conf, in which services can be commented on or of..) Perform a scan for new HW after the system is booted up. Ad manual option to scan for new HW. (monitor should be checked allways, autoconf with sax, finetune evt lateron) Network up as early as possible, ingates closed (except dhcp) until cli can be used.
* Shrink the basepackages
With todays changes we seem to be able to do a self-contained build of base with just 72 source packages (spec files). By heavily stripping the set of basepacks of course. And we have side-by-side compiles against the openSUSE config to compare logfiles (no differences sofar).
This sounds realy great! What will the size of the base be then?
Any comments for these already?
Starts to look how it should be now.
Andreas
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"M9." <monkey9@iae.nl> writes:
Andreas Jaeger schreef:
I have so far the the following topics for tomorrows meeting:
* Enabling more network services to be Network manager aware, e.g. ntp and autofs
Network should go up automaticly, after wake from suspend to disk, now this has to be done manualy.
Network itself should go up indeed and if it does not, it's a bug - the problem are some of the services.
* checkin policy for specific projects and how to track them Current example is postgresql. [I don't have details for this one yet]
* AppArmor: Move the profiles from the single package to the packages they belong to
* Faster booting? What can be done here?
Creation of a configfile, from the detection at installtime, in which the HW is listed, and the order of connecting. (boot.ini?, conf, in which services can be commented on or of..) Perform a scan for new HW after the system is booted up. Ad manual option to scan for new HW. (monitor should be checked allways, autoconf with sax, finetune evt lateron) Network up as early as possible, ingates closed (except dhcp) until cli can be used.
* Shrink the basepackages
With todays changes we seem to be able to do a self-contained build of base with just 72 source packages (spec files). By heavily stripping the set of basepacks of course. And we have side-by-side compiles against the openSUSE config to compare logfiles (no differences sofar).
This sounds realy great! What will the size of the base be then?
This is the base system for building the distribution. Btw. current minimal base for installation is 400 MB, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jaeger schreef:
"M9." <monkey9@iae.nl> writes:
I have so far the the following topics for tomorrows meeting:
* Enabling more network services to be Network manager aware, e.g. ntp and autofs Network should go up automaticly, after wake from suspend to disk, now
Andreas Jaeger schreef: this has to be done manualy.
Network itself should go up indeed and if it does not, it's a bug -
I will report it than ;-)
the problem are some of the services.
Ah, i see...
* Shrink the basepackages
With todays changes we seem to be able to do a self-contained build of base with just 72 source packages (spec files). By heavily stripping the set of basepacks of course. And we have side-by-side compiles against the openSUSE config to compare logfiles (no differences sofar). This sounds realy great! What will the size of the base be then?
This is the base system for building the distribution.
Btw. current minimal base for installation is 400 MB,
Which is about half a CD. This must be small enough for now, don't you think?
Andreas
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I have so far the the following topics for tomorrows meeting:
* Enabling more network services to be Network manager aware, e.g. ntp and autofs
* checkin policy for specific projects and how to track them Current example is postgresql. [I don't have details for this one yet]
* AppArmor: Move the profiles from the single package to the packages they belong to
* Faster booting? What can be done here?
I have to way for DHCP. I do not use any DHCP. I have 4 NIC's. It is a real PITA. It takes forever for all NIC's to have do do a DHCP search when there is not DHCP. This should be a configuration option.
* Shrink the basepackages
With todays changes we seem to be able to do a self-contained build of base with just 72 source packages (spec files). By heavily stripping the set of basepacks of course. And we have side-by-side compiles against the openSUSE config to compare logfiles (no differences sofar).
-- Boyd Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 21 March 2007 16:34, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
* Faster booting? What can be done here?
I have to way for DHCP. I do not use any DHCP. I have 4 NIC's. It is a real PITA. It takes forever for all NIC's to have do do a DHCP search when there is not DHCP. This should be a configuration option.
I agree that it should be configurable choice. The DHCP is must for new users just as it is automatic hardware recognition. Once system is configured there must be a choice, to turn both off and on as required. To prevent problems if hardware was changed when computer was off (for any reason) there should be boot option to look for hardware changes. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Boyd Lynn Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> writes:
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* Faster booting? What can be done here?
I have to way for DHCP. I do not use any DHCP. I have 4 NIC's. It is a real PITA. It takes forever for all NIC's to have do do a DHCP search when there is not DHCP. This should be a configuration option.
So, what is your setup? * Network Manager or traditional scripts? * How are the 4 NICs configured? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Boyd Lynn Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> writes:
[...]
* Faster booting? What can be done here?
I have to way for DHCP. I do not use any DHCP. I have 4 NIC's. It is a real PITA. It takes forever for all NIC's to have do do a DHCP search when there is not DHCP. This should be a configuration option.
So, what is your setup? * Network Manager or traditional scripts? * How are the 4 NICs configured?
traditional, yast2 with fixed IP addresses. -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Boyd Lynn Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> writes:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Boyd Lynn Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> writes:
[...]
* Faster booting? What can be done here?
I have to way for DHCP. I do not use any DHCP. I have 4 NIC's. It is a real PITA. It takes forever for all NIC's to have do do a DHCP search when there is not DHCP. This should be a configuration option.
So, what is your setup? * Network Manager or traditional scripts? * How are the 4 NICs configured?
traditional, yast2 with fixed IP addresses.
And booting really waits for those IPs? This looks strange to me. Could you show the output from the log files for this? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Boyd Lynn Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> writes:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Boyd Lynn Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> writes:
[...]
* Faster booting? What can be done here?
I have to way for DHCP. I do not use any DHCP. I have 4 NIC's. It i= s a real PITA. It takes forever for all NIC's to have do do a DHCP search when there is not DHCP. This should be a configuration option.
So, what is your setup? * Network Manager or traditional scripts? * How are the 4 NICs configured?
traditional, yast2 with fixed IP addresses.
And booting really waits for those IPs? This looks strange to me. Could you show the output from the log files for this?
I was more thinking of install or upgrade of OS. Or any task that defaults to testing DHCP. -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Boyd Lynn Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> writes:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Boyd Lynn Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> writes:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Boyd Lynn Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> writes:
[...]
* Faster booting? What can be done here?
I have to way for DHCP. I do not use any DHCP. I have 4 NIC's. It i= s a real PITA. It takes forever for all NIC's to have do do a DHCP search when there is not DHCP. This should be a configuration option.
So, what is your setup? * Network Manager or traditional scripts? * How are the 4 NICs configured?
traditional, yast2 with fixed IP addresses.
And booting really waits for those IPs? This looks strange to me. Could you show the output from the log files for this?
I was more thinking of install or upgrade of OS. Or any task that defaults to testing DHCP.
Ah - I misunderstood you here. For install or upgrade I consider this ok, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
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