[opensuse-factory] Split 12.3

Stephan Kulow

25 Jan 2013 25 Jan '13

11:27

Hi, To be able to build RC1 from 12.3 project, we forked 12.3 now. It will bootstrap now and as such I don't want to disturb the forces and won't checkin updates too soon into neither factory nor 12.3. We decided (out of a mood) to put powerpc and arm right into the new 12.3 project, but in the repository "ports". Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Show replies by date

Felix Miata

25 Jan 25 Jan

13:30

On 2013-01-25 12:27 (GMT+0100) Stephan Kulow composed:

...

To be able to build RC1 from 12.3 project, we forked 12.3 now.

So release next in March 2013 is really going to be called 12.3, followed by another release in November 2013 to be called 13.1? What's the point of having a dot in the number in the release name if the number in the name has no apparent connection with the year of release? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Ralf Lang

13:34

Am 25.01.2013 14:30, schrieb Felix Miata:

...

On 2013-01-25 12:27 (GMT+0100) Stephan Kulow composed:

...
To be able to build RC1 from 12.3 project, we forked 12.3 now.

So release next in March 2013 is really going to be called 12.3, followed by another release in November 2013 to be called 13.1? What's the point of having a dot in the number in the release name if the number in the name has no apparent connection with the year of release?

It's just a number. As long as the schema is consistent and the next number is greater than the last one, we couldn't care less. But maybe there are some marketing reasons to call it 13.1 -- Ralf Lang Linux Consultant / Developer Tel.: +49-170-6381563 Mail: lang@b1-systems.de B1 Systems GmbH Osterfeldstraße 7 / 85088 Vohburg / http://www.b1-systems.de GF: Ralph Dehner / Unternehmenssitz: Vohburg / AG: Ingolstadt,HRB 3537 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Robert Schweikert

14:10

On 01/25/2013 08:30 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

...

On 2013-01-25 12:27 (GMT+0100) Stephan Kulow composed:

...
To be able to build RC1 from 12.3 project, we forked 12.3 now.

So release next in March 2013 is really going to be called 12.3, followed by another release in November 2013 to be called 13.1? What's the point of having a dot in the number in the release name if the number in the name has no apparent connection with the year of release?

We had a lengthy discussion about our version numbering right after 11.4 was released if I remember correctly. Please search the archives of the list for details. The discussion may have occurred on -project or on both lists -project and -factory. Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Larry Finger

14:29

On 01/25/2013 08:10 AM, Robert Schweikert wrote:

...

On 01/25/2013 08:30 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

...
On 2013-01-25 12:27 (GMT+0100) Stephan Kulow composed:

...
To be able to build RC1 from 12.3 project, we forked 12.3 now.

So release next in March 2013 is really going to be called 12.3, followed by another release in November 2013 to be called 13.1? What's the point of having a dot in the number in the release name if the number in the name has no apparent connection with the year of release?

We had a lengthy discussion about our version numbering right after 11.4 was released if I remember correctly. Please search the archives of the list for details. The discussion may have occurred on -project or on both lists -project and -factory.

In addition, how do you propose to have the major release number have any meaning regarding the year when the cycle is *two* years. It is only an accident that 12.2 was released in 2012, and that 13.1 will likely be released in 2013. Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Michal Vyskocil

14:43

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 08:29:21AM -0600, Larry Finger wrote:

...

On 01/25/2013 08:10 AM, Robert Schweikert wrote:

...
On 01/25/2013 08:30 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

...
On 2013-01-25 12:27 (GMT+0100) Stephan Kulow composed:

...
To be able to build RC1 from 12.3 project, we forked 12.3 now.

So release next in March 2013 is really going to be called 12.3, followed by another release in November 2013 to be called 13.1? What's the point of having a dot in the number in the release name if the number in the name has no apparent connection with the year of release?

We had a lengthy discussion about our version numbering right after 11.4 was released if I remember correctly. Please search the archives of the list for details. The discussion may have occurred on -project or on both lists -project and -factory.

In addition, how do you propose to have the major release number have any meaning regarding the year when the cycle is *two* years. It is only an accident that 12.2 was released in 2012, and that 13.1 will likely be released in 2013.

Hi, those numbers does not (need to) makes any sense*. It's just an increasing sequence of numbers, which is all you need to beeing able to compare which release is more recent. There is no major, neither minor version at all - consider the sysvinit drop will happen in 12.3. If the major.minor scheme will exists, then it will enforce us to 13.0. This is mostly the same as kernel is released, just the alghorithm is different. First version number is increased when Linus considers the second one too big. * it actually does, alghorithm can be found @wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSUSE#Version_history BTW: can I propose "it's just a number" as a codename of next openSUSE release? ;-) Regards Michal Vyskocil

Basil Chupin

14:48

On 26/01/13 01:43, Michal Vyskocil wrote:

...

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 08:29:21AM -0600, Larry Finger wrote:

...
On 01/25/2013 08:10 AM, Robert Schweikert wrote:

...
...
On 2013-01-25 12:27 (GMT+0100) Stephan Kulow composed:

...
To be able to build RC1 from 12.3 project, we forked 12.3 now. So release next in March 2013 is really going to be called 12.3, followed by another release in November 2013 to be called 13.1? What's the point of having a dot in the number in the release name if the number in the name has no apparent connection with the year of release? We had a lengthy discussion about our version numbering right after 11.4 was released if I remember correctly. Please search the archives of the list for

On 01/25/2013 08:30 AM, Felix Miata wrote: details. The discussion may have occurred on -project or on both lists -project and -factory. In addition, how do you propose to have the major release number have any meaning regarding the year when the cycle is *two* years. It is only an accident that 12.2 was released in 2012, and that 13.1 will likely be released in 2013. Hi,

those numbers does not (need to) makes any sense*. It's just an increasing sequence of numbers, which is all you need to beeing able to compare which release is more recent. There is no major, neither minor version at all - consider the sysvinit drop will happen in 12.3. If the major.minor scheme will exists, then it will enforce us to 13.0.

This is mostly the same as kernel is released, just the alghorithm is different. First version number is increased when Linus considers the second one too big.

* it actually does, alghorithm can be found @wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSUSE#Version_history

BTW: can I propose "it's just a number" as a codename of next openSUSE release? ;-)

Nope. This will be the Chinese year of the Snake so the next release should be called Anaconda. Period. No discussion, no arguments. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.10.0 & kernel 3.7.4-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Jan Engelhardt

15:36

On Friday 2013-01-25 15:48, Basil Chupin wrote:

...

...
BTW: can I propose "it's just a number" as a codename of next openSUSE release? ;-)

Nope.

This will be the Chinese year of the Snake so the next release should be called Anaconda. Period. No discussion, no arguments.

Nah SUSE has something better than anaconda. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

26 Jan 26 Jan

01:27

On 26/01/13 02:36, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

...

On Friday 2013-01-25 15:48, Basil Chupin wrote:

...
...
BTW: can I propose "it's just a number" as a codename of next openSUSE release? ;-) Nope.

This will be the Chinese year of the Snake so the next release should be called Anaconda. Period. No discussion, no arguments. Nah SUSE has something better than anaconda.

There is no such thing as the Year of the Lizard - and there are 1.3 billion in China alone who will be celebrating the year of the Snake. A pretty big potential market I would suggest... BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.10.0 & kernel 3.7.4-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Andrew Joakimsen

27 Jan 27 Jan

03:26

Who picks their software based on the name? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

...

On 26/01/13 02:36, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

...
On Friday 2013-01-25 15:48, Basil Chupin wrote:

...
...
BTW: can I propose "it's just a number" as a codename of next openSUSE release? ;-) Nope.

This will be the Chinese year of the Snake so the next release should be called Anaconda. Period. No discussion, no arguments. Nah SUSE has something better than anaconda.

There is no such thing as the Year of the Lizard - and there are 1.3 billion in China alone who will be celebrating the year of the Snake. A pretty big potential market I would suggest...

BC

-- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.10.0 & kernel 3.7.4-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU

-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

04:08

On 27/01/13 14:26, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:

...

Who picks their software based on the name?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 25, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

...
On 26/01/13 02:36, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

...
On Friday 2013-01-25 15:48, Basil Chupin wrote:

...
...
BTW: can I propose "it's just a number" as a codename of next openSUSE release? ;-) Nope.

This will be the Chinese year of the Snake so the next release should be called Anaconda. Period. No discussion, no arguments. Nah SUSE has something better than anaconda. There is no such thing as the Year of the Lizard - and there are 1.3 billion in China alone who will be celebrating the year of the Snake. A pretty big potential market I would suggest...

BC

I thought that we are talking about codenames and not version numbers, no? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.10.0 & kernel 3.7.4-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Michal Vyskocil

28 Jan 28 Jan

10:13

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 12:27:13PM +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

...

On 26/01/13 02:36, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

...
On Friday 2013-01-25 15:48, Basil Chupin wrote:

...
...
BTW: can I propose "it's just a number" as a codename of next openSUSE release? ;-) Nope.

This will be the Chinese year of the Snake so the next release should be called Anaconda. Period. No discussion, no arguments. Nah SUSE has something better than anaconda.

I don't like explaining of jokes, but see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_%28installer%29 https://www.google.com/search?q=anaconda+sucks+F18

...

There is no such thing as the Year of the Lizard - and there are 1.3 billion in China alone who will be celebrating the year of the Snake. A pretty big potential market I would suggest...

Using a name of South America species because there is a Year of Snake in China? This is what people called "globalization", isn't it ;-) Regards Michal Vyskocil

Basil Chupin

29 Jan 29 Jan

06:30

On 28/01/13 21:13, Michal Vyskocil wrote:

...

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 12:27:13PM +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

...
On 26/01/13 02:36, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

...
On Friday 2013-01-25 15:48, Basil Chupin wrote:

...
...
BTW: can I propose "it's just a number" as a codename of next openSUSE release? ;-) Nope.

This will be the Chinese year of the Snake so the next release should be called Anaconda. Period. No discussion, no arguments. Nah SUSE has something better than anaconda. I don't like explaining of jokes, but

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_%28installer%29 https://www.google.com/search?q=anaconda+sucks+F18

...
There is no such thing as the Year of the Lizard - and there are 1.3 billion in China alone who will be celebrating the year of the Snake. A pretty big potential market I would suggest... Using a name of South America species because there is a Year of Snake in China? This is what people called "globalization", isn't it ;-)

Regards Michal Vyskocil

Yep, globalisation is the name of the game. OK, so forget anaconda. Call it Black Mamba (to give it that Ubuntu-African flavour) or Taipan (which will make people think of Tai-Pan). BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.10.0 & kernel 3.7.4-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Stephan Kulow

30 Jan 30 Jan

08:43

On 29.01.2013 07:30, Basil Chupin wrote:

...

Yep, globalisation is the name of the game.

OK, so forget anaconda. Call it Black Mamba (to give it that Ubuntu-African flavour) or Taipan (which will make people think of Tai-Pan).

Stop it now! Your only adding noise to this list. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Vincent Untz

25 Jan 25 Jan

14:33

Le vendredi 25 janvier 2013, à 09:10 -0500, Robert Schweikert a écrit :

...

On 01/25/2013 08:30 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

...
On 2013-01-25 12:27 (GMT+0100) Stephan Kulow composed:

...
To be able to build RC1 from 12.3 project, we forked 12.3 now.

So release next in March 2013 is really going to be called 12.3, followed by another release in November 2013 to be called 13.1? What's the point of having a dot in the number in the release name if the number in the name has no apparent connection with the year of release?

We had a lengthy discussion about our version numbering right after 11.4 was released if I remember correctly. Please search the archives of the list for details. The discussion may have occurred on -project or on both lists -project and -factory.

Quick link for those who want to read more about that past discussion: http://lizards.opensuse.org/2011/04/06/versionitis/ Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Rick Chung

14:39

On Friday, January 25, 2013 08:30:48 AM Felix Miata wrote:

...

On 2013-01-25 12:27 (GMT+0100) Stephan Kulow composed:

...
To be able to build RC1 from 12.3 project, we forked 12.3 now.

So release next in March 2013 is really going to be called 12.3, followed by another release in November 2013 to be called 13.1? What's the point of having a dot in the number in the release name if the number in the name has no apparent connection with the year of release?

The very long discussions about versions ended on this announcement http://lizards.opensuse.org/2011/04/06/versionitis/ Just to clarify the point. Regards, -- Ricardo Chung | Panama Ambassador openSUSE Projects -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Jan Engelhardt

14:48

On Friday 2013-01-25 14:30, Felix Miata wrote:

...

On 2013-01-25 12:27 (GMT+0100) Stephan Kulow composed:

...
To be able to build RC1 from 12.3 project, we forked 12.3 now.

So release next in March 2013 is really going to be called 12.3, followed by another release in November 2013 to be called 13.1? What's the point of having a dot in the number in the release name if the number in the name has no apparent connection with the year of release?

Seriously, do you want to start that discussion _again_? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Cristian Rodríguez

15:09

El 25/01/13 10:30, Felix Miata escribió:

...

On 2013-01-25 12:27 (GMT+0100) Stephan Kulow composed:

...
To be able to build RC1 from 12.3 project, we forked 12.3 now.

So release next in March 2013 is really going to be called 12.3, followed by another release in November 2013 to be called 13.1? What's the point of having a dot in the number in the release name if the number in the name has no apparent connection with the year of release?

Release numbers are technically meaningless, they are just a reference to the "state of things" in a particular time frame..and a marketing tool ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Felix Miata

18:05

On 2013-01-25 12:09 (GMT-0300) Cristian Rodríguez composed:

...

Felix Miata composed:

...

...
So release next in March 2013 is really going to be called 12.3, followed by another release in November 2013 to be called 13.1? What's the point of having a dot in the number in the release name if the number in the name has no apparent connection with the year of release?

...

Release numbers are technically meaningless, they are just a reference to the "state of things" in a particular time frame..and a marketing tool ;)

Then get it out of the marketing release name, where it looks like something related to year of release. Releasing a 12.3 in 2013 will to a n00b trying to choose his first distro make openSUSE look like a Mandriva, a release team on its death bed that can't get its act together. Going GM with a 3.7 kernel, it might look better to call it openSUSE 37 if the name actually needs a number in its release name. On 2013-01-26 01:48 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:

...

This will be the Chinese year of the Snake so the next release should be called Anaconda.

Same as Fedora's incompetent installer? I hope not. :-( On 2013-01-25 15:33 (GMT+0100) Vincent Untz composed:

...

Quick link for those who want to read more about that past discussion: http://lizards.opensuse.org/2011/04/06/versionitis/

As an outsider like Penny would say, wackadoodle. Dots are for rational numbers, package versions, filename suffixes, punctuation and killing typewriter ribbons. They're out of place in non-geeky product marketing names.[1] The immemorable actual meaning of those numbers in openSUSE would be better left below the marketing horizon, at least until there's more separation between digits to the left and the year of release. For now, hide it in os-release, about windows and the development mailing lists. In marketing call this one simply openSUSE Dartmouth. [1] http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2011/08/17/on-firefox-versioning/ -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Ralf Lang

28 Jan 28 Jan

08:46

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1

...

As an outsider like Penny would say, wackadoodle. Dots are for rational numbers, package versions, filename suffixes, punctuation and killing typewriter ribbons. They're out of place in non-geeky product marketing names.[1] The immemorable actual meaning of those numbers in openSUSE would be better left below the marketing horizon, at least until there's more separation between digits to the left and the year of release. For now, hide it in os-release, about windows and the development mailing lists. In marketing call this one simply openSUSE Dartmouth.

[1] http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2011/08/17/on-firefox-versioning/

This is neither the right time nor the right place to tell a community to drop its consensus how they like to call their next best version. You should have argued when the topic was hot. And no, coming up with meaningless words is not better than any incremental numbering scheme. 12.3 is after 12.2 - easy. How should I know that the Reeperbahn release is before or after the Altona release of OpenAllnight? - -- Ralf Lang Linux Consultant / Developer Tel.: +49-170-6381563 Mail: lang@b1-systems.de B1 Systems GmbH Osterfeldstra￟e 7 / 85088 Vohburg / http://www.b1-systems.de GF: Ralph Dehner / Unternehmenssitz: Vohburg / AG: Ingolstadt,HRB 3537 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEGOvsACgkQCs1dsHJ/X7ALWwCeJNSTs7k4QvD4np0HhWjrg+lU nQ0AniVaxHi9SZN1BHHeZF5CbwROZvwD =Arx/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

25 Jan 25 Jan

17:37

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Stephan Kulow wrote:

...

Hi,

To be able to build RC1 from 12.3 project, we forked 12.3 now. It will bootstrap now and as such I don't want to disturb the forces and won't checkin updates too soon into neither factory nor 12.3.

We decided (out of a mood) to put powerpc and arm right into the new 12.3 project, but in the repository "ports".

Greetings, Stephan

Does that mean factory will be released from freeze in the short term? And for 12.3 bugs that exist, does that mean we follow the update procedure for a released version, or just do a normal SR to 12.3? Thanks Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Jan Engelhardt

18:06

On Friday 2013-01-25 18:37, Greg Freemyer wrote:

...

...
To be able to build RC1 from 12.3 project, we forked 12.3 now. It will bootstrap now and as such I don't want to disturb the forces and won't checkin updates too soon into neither factory nor 12.3.

We decided (out of a mood) to put powerpc and arm right into the new 12.3 project, but in the repository "ports".

Does that mean factory will be released from freeze in the short term?

No. (At least that is how it has been)

...

And for 12.3 bugs that exist, does that mean we follow the update procedure for a released version, or just do a normal SR to 12.3?

Normal SR to _factory_. This will be copied to 12.3. Traditionally, factory is unfrozen after release day. Which is good enough. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Stephan Kulow

28 Jan 28 Jan

09:30

On 25.01.2013 19:06, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

...

On Friday 2013-01-25 18:37, Greg Freemyer wrote:

...
...
To be able to build RC1 from 12.3 project, we forked 12.3 now. It will bootstrap now and as such I don't want to disturb the forces and won't checkin updates too soon into neither factory nor 12.3.

We decided (out of a mood) to put powerpc and arm right into the new 12.3 project, but in the repository "ports".

Does that mean factory will be released from freeze in the short term?

No. (At least that is how it has been)

...
And for 12.3 bugs that exist, does that mean we follow the update procedure for a released version, or just do a normal SR to 12.3?

Normal SR to _factory_. This will be copied to 12.3.

Traditionally, factory is unfrozen after release day. Which is good enough.

Well, what Jan said plus: the freeze for factory is released a bit giving me more options when accepting factory requests. 0. decline 1. update only factory 2. update factory and copy to 12.3 3. update factory and SR to 12.3:Update for maintenance queue and later backport into 12.3 4. add review for later factory submission I want factory to be usable as testing ground for 12.3 fixes, so I won't take risky stuff right now. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

4112

Age (days ago)

4117

Last active (days ago)

List overview

Download

22 comments

13 participants

participants (13)

Andrew Joakimsen
Basil Chupin
Cristian Rodríguez
Felix Miata
Greg Freemyer
Jan Engelhardt
Larry Finger
Michal Vyskocil
Ralf Lang
Rick Chung
Robert Schweikert
Stephan Kulow
Vincent Untz