On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Greg KH wrote:

Sometimes downgrades happen, when something goes wrong and we need to "downgrade" back to the 11.4 versions of packages.  But that's really only happened once, when I botched the first major KDE update.  It shouldn't still be happening now.

Can you post a list of the repos that you have (output of 'zypper lr -d' is good)?

Thanks Greg, the output of zypper lr is weird to be placed in an email, that's why I put the zypper ref output: sudo zypper ref Retrieving repository 'Tumbleweed' metadata [done] Building repository 'Tumbleweed' cache [done] Retrieving repository 'Mozilla' metadata [done] Building repository 'Mozilla' cache [done] Repository 'openSUSE-11.4-Non-Oss' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-11.4-Oss' is up to date. Retrieving repository 'openSUSE-11.4-Update' metadata [done] Building repository 'openSUSE-11.4-Update' cache [done] All repositories have been refreshed. sudo zypper dup --from Tumbleweed Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Computing distribution upgrade... The following NEW package is going to be installed: libldb1 The following packages are going to be upgraded: aaa_base aaa_base-extras akonadi-runtime akregator alsa bootsplash-branding-openSUSE cifs-utils filesystem gpg2 gpg2-lang gstreamer-0_10-plugin-gnomevfs gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base-lang gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good-lang hugin insserv iproute2 iptables kaddressbook kate kde4-filesystem kde4-l10n-de kdeartwork4-screensaver kdeartwork4-weatherwallpapers kdenetwork4-filesharing kdepim4 kdepim4-runtime kdepim4-wizards kdnssd kernel-desktop kernel-desktop-devel kernel-devel kernel-firmware kget kmail knotes kompare kontact kopete korganizer krdc krfb libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libao4 libao-plugin4-esd libao-plugins4 libasound2 libassuan0 libgpgme11 libgpod4 libgpod-tools libgstapp-0_10-0 libgstinterfaces-0_10-0 libgudev-1_0-0 libjack0 libkdepim4 libpulse0 libpulse-browse0 libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libqt4 libqt4-qt3support libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-x11 libQtWebKit4 libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-drivers-mysql libreoffice-base-extensions libreoffice-calc libreoffice-calc-extensions libreoffice-components libreoffice-draw libreoffice-draw-extensions libreoffice-filters libreoffice-filters-optional libreoffice-help-de libreoffice-help-en-US libreoffice-impress libreoffice-impress-extensions libreoffice-kde4 libreoffice-l10n-de libreoffice-l10n-extras libreoffice-libs-core libreoffice-libs-extern libreoffice-libs-gui libreoffice-mailmerge libreoffice-math libreoffice-pyuno libreoffice-ure libreoffice-writer libreoffice-writer-extensions libsmbclient0 libsndfile libtalloc2 libtdb1 libtevent0 libudev0 libupower-glib1 libwbclient0 marble marble-data mc mkinitrd openvpn plasma-addons plasma-addons-marble plasma-theme-aya polkit-default-privs preload preload-kmp-desktop procps pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-bluetooth pulseaudio-module-jack pulseaudio-module-lirc pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-module-zeroconf pulseaudio-utils python-kde4 python-qt4 samba samba-client samba-krb-printing samba-winbind screen udev upower vim vim-base vim-data vorbis-tools vorbis-tools-lang The following packages are going to be downgraded: ark bluedevil bluedevil-lang btrfsprogs choqok digikam digikam-lang dolphin gwenview kaffeine kcalc kcharselect kcolorchooser kde4-kgreeter-plugins kdebase4 kdebase4-libkonq kdebase4-nsplugin kdebase4-openSUSE kdebase4-runtime kdebase4-runtime-branding-openSUSE kdebase4-session kdebase4-workspace kdebase4-workspace-branding-openSUSE kdebase4-workspace-ksysguardd kdebase4-workspace-liboxygenstyle kdegames4 kdegames4-carddecks-default kdegames4-carddecks-other kdegraphics4 kdelibs4 kdelibs4-branding-openSUSE kdelibs4-core kdemultimedia4 kdepasswd kdepimlibs4 kdesvn kdialog kdm kdm-branding-openSUSE keditbookmarks kfind kgamma kgpg kio_audiocd kio_kamera kio_sysinfo kio_sysinfo-branding-openSUSE kipi-plugins kipi-plugins-acquireimage kipi-plugins-lang kmag kmahjongg kmines kmix kmousetool konqueror konqueror-plugins konsole kpat kreversi kruler kscd ksnapshot ksudoku kwalletmanager kwin kwrite libakonadi4 libepub0 libexiv2-10 libkcddb4 libkcompactdisc4 libkdcraw9 libkde4 libkdecore4 libkdegames4 libkdepimlibs4 libkexiv2-9 libkipi8 libkonq5 libksane0 libksuseinstall1 libsvnqt6 okular oxygen-icon-theme oxygen-icon-theme-large oxygen-icon-theme-scalable python-kdebase4 sweeper The following package is going to change vendor: libassuan0 openSUSE -> obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed 136 packages to upgrade, 89 to downgrade, 1 new, 1 to change vendor. And this is only zypper up: sudo zypper up Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... The following package updates will NOT be installed: libassuan0 libfreebl3 libldb0 libsoftokn3 MozillaFirefox MozillaFirefox-branding-openSUSE MozillaFirefox-translations-common mozilla-kde4-integration mozilla-nspr mozilla-nss mozilla-nss-certs MozillaThunderbird The following NEW package is going to be installed: libldb1 The following packages are going to be upgraded: aaa_base aaa_base-extras akonadi-runtime akregator alsa bind-libs bind-utils bootsplash-branding-openSUSE cifs-utils cron cronie filesystem gimp gimp-help-browser gimp-plugins-python gpg2 gpg2-lang gstreamer-0_10-plugin-gnomevfs gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base-lang gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good-lang hugin icedtea-web insserv iproute2 iptables kaddressbook kate kde4-filesystem kde4-l10n-de kdeartwork4-screensaver kdeartwork4-weatherwallpapers kdenetwork4-filesharing kdepim4 kdepim4-runtime kdepim4-wizards kdnssd kernel-desktop kernel-desktop-devel kernel-devel kernel-firmware kget kmail knotes kompare kontact kopete korganizer krdc krfb libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libao4 libao-plugin4-esd libao-plugins4 libapr1 libapr-util1 libasound2 libfreetype6 libgimp-2_0-0 libgimpui-2_0-0 libgpgme11 libgpod4 libgpod-tools libgstapp-0_10-0 libgstinterfaces-0_10-0 libgudev-1_0-0 libjack0 libkdepim4 libpulse0 libpulse-browse0 libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libqt4 libqt4-qt3support libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-x11 libQtWebKit4 libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-drivers-mysql libreoffice-base-extensions libreoffice-calc libreoffice-calc-extensions libreoffice-components libreoffice-draw libreoffice-draw-extensions libreoffice-filters libreoffice-filters-optional libreoffice-help-de libreoffice-help-en-US libreoffice-impress libreoffice-impress-extensions libreoffice-kde4 libreoffice-l10n-de libreoffice-l10n-extras libreoffice-libs-core libreoffice-libs-extern libreoffice-libs-gui libreoffice-mailmerge libreoffice-math libreoffice-pyuno libreoffice-ure libreoffice-writer libreoffice-writer-extensions libsmbclient0 libsndfile libsnmp25 libsoup-2_4-1 libtalloc2 libtdb1 libtevent0 libudev0 libupower-glib1 libwbclient0 libxml2 libzypp marble marble-data mc mdadm mkinitrd MozillaFirefox MozillaFirefox-translations-common openvpn permissions plasma-addons plasma-addons-marble plasma-theme-aya polkit-default-privs preload preload-kmp-desktop procps pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-bluetooth pulseaudio-module-jack pulseaudio-module-lirc pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-module-zeroconf pulseaudio-utils python-kde4 python-qt4 python-satsolver samba samba-client samba-krb-printing samba-winbind satsolver-tools screen snmp-mibs sysvinit sysvinit-tools telnet udev udisks upower vim vim-base vim-data vorbis-tools vorbis-tools-lang zypper 164 packages to upgrade, 1 new. I also disabled the Mozilla repository, did zypper ref, and then zypper dup --from Tumbleweed, and it shows the same number of packages to be upgraded and downgrades, as it was before, so looks like the Mozilla repo has nothing to do with that: sudo zypper ref Repository 'Tumbleweed' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-11.4-Non-Oss' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-11.4-Oss' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-11.4-Update' is up to date. All repositories have been refreshed. -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Greg KH wrote:

Why is it "wierd"?  It's what we need here.

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sudo zypper dup --from Tumbleweed

Don't do that, just do a simple 'zypper dup' please.

sudo zypper dup root's password: Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before you continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command. Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Computing distribution upgrade... The following NEW packages are going to be installed: libldb1 openSUSE-release-ftp The following packages are going to be upgraded: aaa_base aaa_base-extras akonadi-runtime akregator alsa bind-libs bind-utils bootsplash-branding-openSUSE cifs-utils cron cronie filesystem gimp gimp-help-browser gimp-plugins-python gpg2 gpg2-lang gstreamer-0_10-plugin-gnomevfs gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base gstreamer-0_10-plugins-base-lang gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good gstreamer-0_10-plugins-good-lang hugin icedtea-web insserv iproute2 iptables kaddressbook kate kde4-filesystem kde4-l10n-de kdeartwork4-screensaver kdeartwork4-weatherwallpapers kdenetwork4-filesharing kdepim4 kdepim4-runtime kdepim4-wizards kdnssd kernel-desktop kernel-desktop-devel kernel-devel kernel-firmware kget kmail knotes kompare kontact kopete korganizer krdc krfb libakonadiprotocolinternals1 libao4 libao-plugin4-esd libao-plugins4 libapr1 libapr-util1 libasound2 libassuan0 libfreetype6 libgimp-2_0-0 libgimpui-2_0-0 libgpgme11 libgpod4 libgpod-tools libgstapp-0_10-0 libgstinterfaces-0_10-0 libgudev-1_0-0 libjack0 libkdepim4 libldb0 libpulse0 libpulse-browse0 libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libqt4 libqt4-qt3support libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-x11 libQtWebKit4 libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-drivers-mysql libreoffice-base-extensions libreoffice-calc libreoffice-calc-extensions libreoffice-components libreoffice-draw libreoffice-draw-extensions libreoffice-filters libreoffice-filters-optional libreoffice-help-de libreoffice-help-en-US libreoffice-impress libreoffice-impress-extensions libreoffice-kde4 libreoffice-l10n-de libreoffice-l10n-extras libreoffice-libs-core libreoffice-libs-extern libreoffice-libs-gui libreoffice-mailmerge libreoffice-math libreoffice-pyuno libreoffice-ure libreoffice-writer libreoffice-writer-extensions libsmbclient0 libsndfile libsnmp25 libsoup-2_4-1 libtalloc2 libtdb1 libtevent0 libudev0 libupower-glib1 libwbclient0 libxml2 libzypp marble marble-data mc mdadm mkinitrd MozillaFirefox MozillaFirefox-translations-common MozillaThunderbird openvpn permissions plasma-addons plasma-addons-marble plasma-theme-aya polkit-default-privs preload preload-kmp-desktop procps pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-bluetooth pulseaudio-module-jack pulseaudio-module-lirc pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-module-zeroconf pulseaudio-utils python-kde4 python-qt4 python-satsolver samba samba-client samba-krb-printing samba-winbind satsolver-tools screen snmp-mibs sysvinit sysvinit-tools telnet udev udisks upower vim vim-base vim-data vorbis-tools vorbis-tools-lang zypper The following packages are going to be downgraded: ark bluedevil bluedevil-lang btrfsprogs choqok digikam digikam-lang dolphin grantlee gwenview kaffeine kcalc kcharselect kcolorchooser kde4-kgreeter-plugins kdebase4 kdebase4-libkonq kdebase4-nsplugin kdebase4-openSUSE kdebase4-runtime kdebase4-runtime-branding-openSUSE kdebase4-session kdebase4-workspace kdebase4-workspace-branding-openSUSE kdebase4-workspace-ksysguardd kdebase4-workspace-liboxygenstyle kdegames4 kdegames4-carddecks-default kdegames4-carddecks-other kdegraphics4 kdelibs4 kdelibs4-branding-openSUSE kdelibs4-core kdemultimedia4 kdepasswd kdepimlibs4 kdesvn kdialog kdm kdm-branding-openSUSE keditbookmarks kfind kgamma kgpg kio_audiocd kio_kamera kio_sysinfo kio_sysinfo-branding-openSUSE kipi-plugins kipi-plugins-acquireimage kipi-plugins-lang kmag kmahjongg kmines kmix kmousetool konqueror konqueror-plugins konsole kpat kreversi kruler kscd ksnapshot ksudoku kwalletmanager kwin kwrite libakonadi4 libepub0 libexiv2-10 libkcddb4 libkcompactdisc4 libkdcraw9 libkde4 libkdecore4 libkdegames4 libkdepimlibs4 libkexiv2-9 libkipi8 libkonq5 libksane0 libksuseinstall1 libsvnqt6 okular oxygen-icon-theme oxygen-icon-theme-large oxygen-icon-theme-scalable python-kdebase4 sweeper The following packages are going to change vendor: btrfsprogs obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> openSUSE grantlee obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE:Unstable -> openSUSE kdebase4-openSUSE obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> openSUSE kdebase4-runtime-branding-openSUSE obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> openSUSE kdebase4-workspace-branding-openSUSE obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> openSUSE kdelibs4-branding-openSUSE obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> openSUSE kdesvn obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> openSUSE kdm-branding-openSUSE obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> openSUSE kio_sysinfo obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> openSUSE kio_sysinfo-branding-openSUSE obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> openSUSE libassuan0 openSUSE -> obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed libldb0 obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> openSUSE libsvnqt6 obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> openSUSE MozillaThunderbird obs://build.opensuse.org/mozilla -> openSUSE 167 packages to upgrade, 90 to downgrade, 2 new, 14 to change vendor.

It looks sane, I'd try the 'zypper dup' on its own, and then just accept the update and see what happens.  I don't know why you have such a big kde downgrade, that is odd, but things happen...

So, yeah, looks like its kde downgrade: rpm -qa | grep kdebase4-openSUSE kdebase4-openSUSE-11.4-121.6.x86_64 -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Greg KH wrote:

On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 11:48:17AM -0500, Sunny wrote:

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The following packages are going to change vendor:   btrfsprogs obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed -> openSUSE   grantlee obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE:Unstable -> openSUSE   kdebase4-openSUSE

You have other repos installed other than Tumbleweed and the base 11.4 repos.  Don't do that and expect things to work.  Disable all of them and you should be fine.

Everything else besides Tumbleweed and the openSuse repos are disabled. If you think about KDE:Unstable, it was not supported for awhile, and was disabled long ago. Still, it's strange, even if in the past I have installed something from that repo, that now it wants to change vendor to the main repo, and not to Tumbleweed one, where I think more recent versions should exist. Anyway, I'll downgrade next week and see how it goes. Thanks for the help -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

On 08/05/2011 04:26 PM, Sunny pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

What are the priorities of the repos? The one with the highest priority will allways win the battle.

All are at 99. Should I change some? Thanks -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 22:52:12 +1000 "John Andrews (swerdna)" wrote:

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What are the priorities of the repos? The one with the highest priority will allways win the battle.

All are at 99. Should I change some?

Thanks

This thread: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/tumbleweed/463744... and in particular post #48 should be of interest. Hi That should be post #24 ;)

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On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Greg KH wrote:

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All are at 99. Should I change some?

If they are all the same, it should be fine.  Are you having problems with it that way right now?

Just checked - still says 89 packages to be downgraded. One of the packages it wants to downgrade is kdebase4. So I pulled zypper info for it: Information for package kdebase4: Repository: @System Name: kdebase4 Version: 4.6.5-5.1 Arch: x86_64 Vendor: obs://build.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed Installed: Yes Status: up-to-date So, most probably some other package is making it to downgrade. How do I investigate to see which one requires lower version of kdebase4? Cheers -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org