[opensuse-factory] factory to beta3 and other
Is there a simple way to upgrade from factory to beta3 and in the future to the final release? I'm not sure I always will want to live in factory land. Erik. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 13:02 -0400, Putrycz, Erik wrote:
Which lead to a more general question: Why don't we have a repository called SUSE-11, and have SL-OSS-factory as a symlink to it. So then we create SUSE-11.1 and change the link for SL-OSS-factory. That way: -you can choose one specific release to track the development, and once it is release you stay on it unless you change the repository -you can choose to follow factory and always leave on the edge. In that case set the repository to point to factory and be done with it. Currently the situation force you to change the repository when the release is made. If you forget you might end up with factory packages. Hub --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
This would be great! I don't mind jumping later in the factory but I rather avoid the early alpha versions...
Currently the situation force you to change the repository when the release is made. If you forget you might end up with factory packages.
Agreed! Erik --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 16 May 2008 19:28:57 wrote Hubert Figuiere:
We want to avoid to have two distro, instead one which permanently changes. It increases the load on our build system and also to the mirrors, which need to sync twice as much data. In addition to that, pleople will take a 11.0 directory now as final release. And they may not update to final one later leading to all kind of wired problems. bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) email: adrian@suse.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 08:15 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote:
It is not 2 distro. It is one. But with a symlink that move. Hub --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 14:14:18 wrote Hubert Figuiere:
uh, but that would mean that the repo is changing the product later on ... This is definitive something what can cause trouble. -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) email: adrian@suse.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Adrian Schröter schreef: | On Tuesday 20 May 2008 14:14:18 wrote Hubert Figuiere: |> On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 08:15 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote: |>>> Which lead to a more general question: |>>> |>>> Why don't we have a repository called SUSE-11, and have |>> SL-OSS-factory |>> |>>> as a symlink to it. So then we create SUSE-11.1 and change the link |>> for |>> |>>> SL-OSS-factory. |>> We want to avoid to have two distro, instead one which permanently |>> changes. It |>> increases the load on our build system and also to the mirrors, which |>> need to |>> sync twice as much data. |> It is not 2 distro. It is one. But with a symlink that move. | | uh, but that would mean that the repo is changing the product later on ... | | This is definitive something what can cause trouble. | | A fact is that incomplete updates, due to unfullfilled deps, cause very much trouble, and a lot of extra work, which cost a lot of time, which is mostly not available... To illustrate: an inconsistent browser, due to some missing pkgs, crashed after downloading 93% from the beta3-dvd. 4h and 29m gone in the drain.. - - second try power disturbance crashed the box, 3h 24m down the drain, - - third attempt: source could not be read, after 4h 16m, dl can not be resumed... - - Now i am at the 4th attempt, 4h 39m to go.... (hope i get it complete and OK. DVD is big to download...) Is there no way or option to somehow know when the mirrors are completely synced to a complete OS? (This is written on a more stable 10.3 version..) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. ~ Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.22.17-0.1-default x86_64 ~ Current user: monkey9@AMD64x2-sfn1 ~ System: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) ~ KDE: 4.0.1 (KDE 4.0.1) "release 9.1" ~ OS: Linux 2.6.22.17-0.1-default x86_64 ~ Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@AMD64x2-sfn1 ~ Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) ~ KDE: 3.5.7 "release 72.6" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI7NdkX5/X5X6LpDgRAocxAKCQtRzAmJU+uG0IIWiE7Y7qH45uAgCgy2pv 4cx3R0b9Rxc/4nDrcv/8wEM= =nYj9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Folks, Found out that a reaktion to a topic was incorrect, my excuses for that. Have to blow some steam about the following: A fact is that incomplete updates, due to unfullfilled deps, cause very much trouble, and a lot of extra work, which cost a lot of time, which is mostly not available... To illustrate: an inconsistent browser, due to some missing pkgs, crashed after downloading 93% from the beta3-dvd. 4h and 29m gone in the drain.. - - second try power disturbance crashed the box, 3h 24m down the drain, - - third attempt: source could not be read, after 4h 16m, dl can not be resumed... - - Now i am at the 4th attempt, at 50% 2h 44m to go.... (hope i get it complete and OK. DVD is big to download...) *Is there no way or option to somehow know when the mirrors are completely synced to a complete OS?* To check every half day for satisfied deps is at least very time-robbing (This is written on a more stable 10.3 version..in a hope to get a full dvd downloaded, after some 12 hours of trying..;) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. ~ Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.22.17-0.1-default x86_64 ~ Current user: monkey9@AMD64x2-sfn1 ~ System: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) ~ KDE: 4.0.1 (KDE 4.0.1) "release 9.1" ~ OS: Linux 2.6.22.17-0.1-default x86_64 ~ Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@AMD64x2-sfn1 ~ Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) ~ KDE: 3.5.7 "release 72.6" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI7PXFX5/X5X6LpDgRAovvAKC9Xk8FsJRut8GZGgeLY6iQywikDwCgtN1o rgdr2QJY15eJR4wtlYeP0kA= =TTBe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Putrycz, Erik <Erik.Putrycz@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca> wrote:
Change the repositories from Factory to openSUSE 11.0 after release and then calling "zypper dup" should work. Zypper hackers can confirm if I am right. Regards Ladislav. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2008-05-16 at 19:32 +0200, Ladislav Michnovič wrote:
I did something similar with yast from factory 10.3 to 10.3 last year, and it worked. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFILjDOtTMYHG2NR9URAi9MAJ0VNaqxUVEhrj3NwW6MF4jscMRhggCbBYAp pQil9GzDEi30LSLxeggJ0Gc= =Tij/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 13:02 -0400, Putrycz, Erik wrote:
Which lead to a more general question: Why don't we have a repository called SUSE-11, and have SL-OSS-factory as a symlink to it. So then we create SUSE-11.1 and change the link for SL-OSS-factory. That way: -you can choose one specific release to track the development, and once it is release you stay on it unless you change the repository -you can choose to follow factory and always leave on the edge. In that case set the repository to point to factory and be done with it. Currently the situation force you to change the repository when the release is made. If you forget you might end up with factory packages. Hub --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
This would be great! I don't mind jumping later in the factory but I rather avoid the early alpha versions...
Currently the situation force you to change the repository when the release is made. If you forget you might end up with factory packages.
Agreed! Erik --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 16 May 2008 19:28:57 wrote Hubert Figuiere:
We want to avoid to have two distro, instead one which permanently changes. It increases the load on our build system and also to the mirrors, which need to sync twice as much data. In addition to that, pleople will take a 11.0 directory now as final release. And they may not update to final one later leading to all kind of wired problems. bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) email: adrian@suse.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 08:15 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote:
It is not 2 distro. It is one. But with a symlink that move. Hub --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 20 May 2008 14:14:18 wrote Hubert Figuiere:
uh, but that would mean that the repo is changing the product later on ... This is definitive something what can cause trouble. -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) email: adrian@suse.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Adrian Schröter schreef: | On Tuesday 20 May 2008 14:14:18 wrote Hubert Figuiere: |> On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 08:15 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote: |>>> Which lead to a more general question: |>>> |>>> Why don't we have a repository called SUSE-11, and have |>> SL-OSS-factory |>> |>>> as a symlink to it. So then we create SUSE-11.1 and change the link |>> for |>> |>>> SL-OSS-factory. |>> We want to avoid to have two distro, instead one which permanently |>> changes. It |>> increases the load on our build system and also to the mirrors, which |>> need to |>> sync twice as much data. |> It is not 2 distro. It is one. But with a symlink that move. | | uh, but that would mean that the repo is changing the product later on ... | | This is definitive something what can cause trouble. | | A fact is that incomplete updates, due to unfullfilled deps, cause very much trouble, and a lot of extra work, which cost a lot of time, which is mostly not available... To illustrate: an inconsistent browser, due to some missing pkgs, crashed after downloading 93% from the beta3-dvd. 4h and 29m gone in the drain.. - - second try power disturbance crashed the box, 3h 24m down the drain, - - third attempt: source could not be read, after 4h 16m, dl can not be resumed... - - Now i am at the 4th attempt, 4h 39m to go.... (hope i get it complete and OK. DVD is big to download...) Is there no way or option to somehow know when the mirrors are completely synced to a complete OS? (This is written on a more stable 10.3 version..) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. ~ Besturingssysteem: Linux 2.6.22.17-0.1-default x86_64 ~ Current user: monkey9@AMD64x2-sfn1 ~ System: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) ~ KDE: 4.0.1 (KDE 4.0.1) "release 9.1" ~ OS: Linux 2.6.22.17-0.1-default x86_64 ~ Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@AMD64x2-sfn1 ~ Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) ~ KDE: 3.5.7 "release 72.6" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI7NdkX5/X5X6LpDgRAocxAKCQtRzAmJU+uG0IIWiE7Y7qH45uAgCgy2pv 4cx3R0b9Rxc/4nDrcv/8wEM= =nYj9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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Adrian Schröter -
Carlos E. R. -
Hubert Figuiere -
Ladislav Michnovič -
M9. -
Putrycz, Erik