[opensuse-factory] Trying my first "zypper dup" upgrade to 12.3

Greg Freemyer

9 Feb 2013 9 Feb '13

15:46

All, I'm testing a "zypper dup" upgrade as documented at: http://en.opensuse.org/Upgrade The test machine I'm using has a pretty vanilla setup I believe. I only put 12.2 on it from scratch a couple weeks ago and have not used it much since. I don't have any devel repos that have ever been added to the zypper repo list. ie. Everything currently installed is from 12.2 official and/or 12.2 upgrades. I'm surprised at the number of packages being removed and/or downgraded. == The following packages are going to be REMOVED: insserv kdebase4-workspace-plasma-engine-akonadi kio_sysinfo kio_sysinfo-branding-openSUSE libffi47 libgcc47 libgfortran47 libgomp47 libidn libkdegames4 libksba liblpsolve55 libquadmath47 libstdc++47 libzio Mesa-libGLU1 plasma-addons-akonadi pwdutils unscd xf86-video-newport yast2-libyui yast2-ncurses yast2-ncurses-pkg yast2-qt yast2-qt-graph yast2-qt-pkg zlib == pwdutils, yast2-ncurses and zlib above really surprise me. Is the above list expected? Then, this list also surprises me. Why are there downgrades if I'm using official repos only for both 12.2 and now 12.3 == The following packages are going to be downgraded: ca-certificates-mozilla gnucash libexif12 libotr2 libudev0 mozilla-kde4-integration site-config smartmontools subversion subversion-perl virtuoso-drivers virtuoso-server xorg-x11-Xvnc yast2-vm == Should those be bumped to higher version numbers in 12.3? Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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Cristian Rodríguez

9 Feb 9 Feb

15:54

El 09/02/13 12:46, Greg Freemyer escribió:

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All,

I'm testing a "zypper dup" upgrade as documented at: http://en.opensuse.org/Upgrade

The test machine I'm using has a pretty vanilla setup I believe.

I only put 12.2 on it from scratch a couple weeks ago and have not used it much since. I don't have any devel repos that have ever been added to the zypper repo list. ie. Everything currently installed is from 12.2 official and/or 12.2 upgrades.

I'm surprised at the number of packages being removed and/or downgraded.

== The following packages are going to be REMOVED: insserv kdebase4-workspace-plasma-engine-akonadi kio_sysinfo kio_sysinfo-branding-openSUSE libffi47 libgcc47 libgfortran47 libgomp47 libidn libkdegames4 libksba liblpsolve55 libquadmath47 libstdc++47 libzio Mesa-libGLU1 plasma-addons-akonadi pwdutils unscd xf86-video-newport yast2-libyui yast2-ncurses yast2-ncurses-pkg yast2-qt yast2-qt-graph yast2-qt-pkg zlib ==

pwdutils, yast2-ncurses and zlib above really surprise me. Is the above list expected?

Yes, - pwdutils is gone - "zlib" is now libz1 - all the foo47 pkgs related to gcc now follow packaging policies and were renamed. - unscd is gone. - etc.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Achim Gratz

15:56

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Trying my first "zypper dup" upgrade to 12.3

Greg Freemyer writes:

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pwdutils, yast2-ncurses and zlib above really surprise me. Is the above list expected?

These packages might simply have been renamed. You see the removal of the old package here in this case.

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Then, this list also surprises me. Why are there downgrades if I'm using official repos only for both 12.2 and now 12.3

I would think that in those cases the upstream version number is the same, while the build numbers started anew in the 12.3 repo. If you press "d" at the prompt where zypper asks for confirmation, it will show the details of what it is about to be doing. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Samples for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldSamplesExtra -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Larry Finger

16:41

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Trying my first "zypper dup" upgrade to 12.3

On 02/09/2013 09:56 AM, Achim Gratz wrote:

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Greg Freemyer writes:

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pwdutils, yast2-ncurses and zlib above really surprise me. Is the above list expected?

These packages might simply have been renamed. You see the removal of the old package here in this case.

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Then, this list also surprises me. Why are there downgrades if I'm using official repos only for both 12.2 and now 12.3

I would think that in those cases the upstream version number is the same, while the build numbers started anew in the 12.3 repo. If you press "d" at the prompt where zypper asks for confirmation, it will show the details of what it is about to be doing.

I have now done a "zypper dup" from 12.3 Beta1 to 12.3 RC1 on two different boxes. Other than a hang when installing rtklib on one of them, it has gone well. To recover from the hang, I rebooted and restarted "zypper dup". The remaining packages installed correctly. The only small anomaly is that when the download calls for N packages, the installation phase always gives a running total of [n/N+1]. When it reaches [N/N+1] it is done. It seems that the total number gets incremented between the download and the installation steps. Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Sid Boyce

21:05

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Trying my first "zypper dup" upgrade to 12.3

On 09/02/13 16:41, Larry Finger wrote:

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On 02/09/2013 09:56 AM, Achim Gratz wrote:

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Greg Freemyer writes:

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pwdutils, yast2-ncurses and zlib above really surprise me. Is the above list expected?

These packages might simply have been renamed. You see the removal of the old package here in this case.

...
Then, this list also surprises me. Why are there downgrades if I'm using official repos only for both 12.2 and now 12.3

I would think that in those cases the upstream version number is the same, while the build numbers started anew in the 12.3 repo. If you press "d" at the prompt where zypper asks for confirmation, it will show the details of what it is about to be doing.

I have now done a "zypper dup" from 12.3 Beta1 to 12.3 RC1 on two different boxes. Other than a hang when installing rtklib on one of them, it has gone well. To recover from the hang, I rebooted and restarted "zypper dup". The remaining packages installed correctly.

The only small anomaly is that when the download calls for N packages, the installation phase always gives a running total of [n/N+1]. When it reaches [N/N+1] it is done. It seems that the total number gets incremented between the download and the installation steps.

Larry

These 12.3-RC1 repos must be well hidden. I can find packages but no .repo files. I have spent the last half an hour searching all to no avail. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Felix Miata

21:20

On 2013-02-09 21:05 (GMT) Sid Boyce composed:

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These 12.3-RC1 repos must be well hidden. I can find packages but no .repo files. I have spent the last half an hour searching all to no avail.

Did you look in factory-snapshot or 12.3 updates? If you simply copy a set of 12.2 repo files to /etc/zypp/repos.d/ and edit all instances of 12.2 content to read 12.3, zypper and yast will get what you want once you refresh. "RC1" itself is a set of iso files, and what logins will announce if using 12.3 repos and dup'd from since RC1 milestone was pushed. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Sid Boyce

10 Feb 10 Feb

00:04

On 09/02/13 21:20, Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2013-02-09 21:05 (GMT) Sid Boyce composed:

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These 12.3-RC1 repos must be well hidden. I can find packages but no .repo files. I have spent the last half an hour searching all to no avail.

Did you look in factory-snapshot or 12.3 updates? If you simply copy a set of 12.2 repo files to /etc/zypp/repos.d/ and edit all instances of 12.2 content to read 12.3, zypper and yast will get what you want once you refresh. "RC1" itself is a set of iso files, and what logins will announce if using 12.3 repos and dup'd from since RC1 milestone was pushed. I did look in all those places and they are none. I'll make some up from what Larry Finger has posted in the next email. Regards Sid.

-- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Sid Boyce

20:50

On 10/02/13 00:04, Sid Boyce wrote:

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On 09/02/13 21:20, Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2013-02-09 21:05 (GMT) Sid Boyce composed:

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These 12.3-RC1 repos must be well hidden. I can find packages but no .repo files. I have spent the last half an hour searching all to no avail.

Did you look in factory-snapshot or 12.3 updates? If you simply copy a set of 12.2 repo files to /etc/zypp/repos.d/ and edit all instances of 12.2 content to read 12.3, zypper and yast will get what you want once you refresh. "RC1" itself is a set of iso files, and what logins will announce if using 12.3 repos and dup'd from since RC1 milestone was pushed. I did look in all those places and they are none. I'll make some up from what Larry Finger has posted in the next email. Regards Sid.

Some way through the zypper dup network stopped working. Rebooted and completed the upgrade. Network stopped again, br0 which uses eth0 had the expected static IP address. It also brought up eth0 with a dhcp assigned address. Yast2 network launched, deleted br0 and set eth0 to static IP address. Yast2 network set up ifcfg-eth0 as shown. sabre:~ # cat /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-eth0 BOOTPROTO='static' BROADCAST='' ETHTOOL_OPTIONS='' IPADDR='192.168.10.21/24' MTU='' NAME='RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller' NETWORK='' REMOTE_IPADDR='' STARTMODE='auto' USERCONTROL='no' It still changed eth0 via dhcp. I have moved /sbin/dhclient and killed it and I also had to set up the default route manually. To be investigated further. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Lars Müller

11 Feb 11 Feb

10:13

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 08:50:57PM +0000, Sid Boyce wrote:

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On 10/02/13 00:04, Sid Boyce wrote:

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On 09/02/13 21:20, Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2013-02-09 21:05 (GMT) Sid Boyce composed:

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These 12.3-RC1 repos must be well hidden. I can find packages but no .repo files. I have spent the last half an hour searching all to no avail.

Did you look in factory-snapshot or 12.3 updates? If you simply copy a set of 12.2 repo files to /etc/zypp/repos.d/ and edit all instances of 12.2 content to read 12.3, zypper and yast will get what you want once you refresh. "RC1" itself is a set of iso files, and what logins will announce if using 12.3 repos and dup'd from since RC1 milestone was pushed. I did look in all those places and they are none. I'll make some up from what Larry Finger has posted in the next email. Regards Sid.

Some way through the zypper dup network stopped working. Rebooted and completed the upgrade.

Network stopped again, br0 which uses eth0 had the expected static IP address.

See https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802879 Please add further information to solve the issue there and not on top of this thread. Cheers, Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team + SUSE Labs SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany

Sid Boyce

14:12

On 11/02/13 10:13, Lars Müller wrote:

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On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 08:50:57PM +0000, Sid Boyce wrote:

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On 10/02/13 00:04, Sid Boyce wrote:

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On 09/02/13 21:20, Felix Miata wrote:

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On 2013-02-09 21:05 (GMT) Sid Boyce composed:

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These 12.3-RC1 repos must be well hidden. I can find packages but no .repo files. I have spent the last half an hour searching all to no avail. Did you look in factory-snapshot or 12.3 updates? If you simply copy a set of 12.2 repo files to /etc/zypp/repos.d/ and edit all instances of 12.2 content to read 12.3, zypper and yast will get what you want once you refresh. "RC1" itself is a set of iso files, and what logins will announce if using 12.3 repos and dup'd from since RC1 milestone was pushed. I did look in all those places and they are none. I'll make some up from what Larry Finger has posted in the next email. Regards Sid.

Some way through the zypper dup network stopped working. Rebooted and completed the upgrade.

Network stopped again, br0 which uses eth0 had the expected static IP address. See https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802879

Please add further information to solve the issue there and not on top of this thread.

Cheers,

Lars Thanks Lars, Already done that. Regards Sid.

Larry Finger

9 Feb 9 Feb

21:32

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Trying my first "zypper dup" upgrade to 12.3

On 02/09/2013 03:05 PM, Sid Boyce wrote:

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On 09/02/13 16:41, Larry Finger wrote:

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On 02/09/2013 09:56 AM, Achim Gratz wrote:

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Greg Freemyer writes:

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pwdutils, yast2-ncurses and zlib above really surprise me. Is the above list expected?

These packages might simply have been renamed. You see the removal of the old package here in this case.

...
Then, this list also surprises me. Why are there downgrades if I'm using official repos only for both 12.2 and now 12.3

I would think that in those cases the upstream version number is the same, while the build numbers started anew in the 12.3 repo. If you press "d" at the prompt where zypper asks for confirmation, it will show the details of what it is about to be doing.

I have now done a "zypper dup" from 12.3 Beta1 to 12.3 RC1 on two different boxes. Other than a hang when installing rtklib on one of them, it has gone well. To recover from the hang, I rebooted and restarted "zypper dup". The remaining packages installed correctly.

The only small anomaly is that when the download calls for N packages, the installation phase always gives a running total of [n/N+1]. When it reaches [N/N+1] it is done. It seems that the total number gets incremented between the download and the installation steps.

Larry

These 12.3-RC1 repos must be well hidden. I can find packages but no .repo files. I have spent the last half an hour searching all to no avail. Regards

The URLs for the 4 repos that I have enabled are: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.3/repo/oss/ http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.3/repo/non-oss/ http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.3/ http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.3-non-oss/ Those URLs are what I would have expected. Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

10 Feb 10 Feb

15:45

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Trying my first "zypper dup" upgrade to 12.3

On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Larry Finger wrote:

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I have now done a "zypper dup" from 12.3 Beta1 to 12.3 RC1 on two different boxes. Other than a hang when installing rtklib on one of them, it has gone well. To recover from the hang, I rebooted and restarted "zypper dup". The remaining packages installed correctly.

Larry, If you meant rtkit, I had that happen too. I added a comment to: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802525 My network manager failed to start after reboot, so now I can't get out to the Internet to try zypper dup again. No time to troubleshoot today, but if someone can suggest next steps for that I'd appreciate it. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

9 Feb 9 Feb

17:26

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Trying my first "zypper dup" upgrade to 12.3

On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Achim Gratz wrote:

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Greg Freemyer writes:

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pwdutils, yast2-ncurses and zlib above really surprise me. Is the above list expected?

These packages might simply have been renamed. You see the removal of the old package here in this case.

...
Then, this list also surprises me. Why are there downgrades if I'm using official repos only for both 12.2 and now 12.3

I would think that in those cases the upstream version number is the same, while the build numbers started anew in the 12.3 repo. If you press "d" at the prompt where zypper asks for confirmation, it will show the details of what it is about to be doing.

detail output has a couple things where the downgrade is before the dash (-) that precedes the build number == The following packages are going to be downgraded: <snip> xorg-x11-Xvnc 7.6_1.12.3-1.21.1 -> 7.6_1.0.1-3.1.1 i586 openSUSE-12.3-Oss openSUSE yast2-vm 2.22.3-2.4.1 -> 2.22.1-4.1.2 i586 openSUSE-12.3-Oss openSUSE == So both of those appear to be true downgrades, not just build number downgrades. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Lars Müller

21:44

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Trying my first "zypper dup" upgrade to 12.3

On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 12:26:34PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Achim Gratz wrote:

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Greg Freemyer writes:

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pwdutils, yast2-ncurses and zlib above really surprise me. Is the above list expected?

These packages might simply have been renamed. You see the removal of the old package here in this case.

...
Then, this list also surprises me. Why are there downgrades if I'm using official repos only for both 12.2 and now 12.3

I would think that in those cases the upstream version number is the same, while the build numbers started anew in the 12.3 repo. If you press "d" at the prompt where zypper asks for confirmation, it will show the details of what it is about to be doing.

detail output has a couple things where the downgrade is before the dash (-) that precedes the build number

== The following packages are going to be downgraded: <snip> xorg-x11-Xvnc 7.6_1.12.3-1.21.1 -> 7.6_1.0.1-3.1.1 i586 openSUSE-12.3-Oss openSUSE

That's the move from xorg.freedesktop.org VNC Server to the TigerVNC implementation of Xvnc if I get it right.

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yast2-vm 2.22.3-2.4.1 -> 2.22.1-4.1.2 i586 openSUSE-12.3-Oss openSUSE

rpm -q --changelog of both versions leads to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802975 Cheers, Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team + SUSE Labs SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany

Greg Freemyer

10 Feb 10 Feb

06:53

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Trying my first "zypper dup" upgrade to 12.3

On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Lars Müller wrote:

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On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 12:26:34PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Achim Gratz wrote:

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Greg Freemyer writes:

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pwdutils, yast2-ncurses and zlib above really surprise me. Is the above list expected?

These packages might simply have been renamed. You see the removal of the old package here in this case.

...
Then, this list also surprises me. Why are there downgrades if I'm using official repos only for both 12.2 and now 12.3

I would think that in those cases the upstream version number is the same, while the build numbers started anew in the 12.3 repo. If you press "d" at the prompt where zypper asks for confirmation, it will show the details of what it is about to be doing.

detail output has a couple things where the downgrade is before the dash (-) that precedes the build number

== The following packages are going to be downgraded: <snip> xorg-x11-Xvnc 7.6_1.12.3-1.21.1 -> 7.6_1.0.1-3.1.1 i586 openSUSE-12.3-Oss openSUSE

That's the move from xorg.freedesktop.org VNC Server to the TigerVNC implementation of Xvnc if I get it right.

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yast2-vm 2.22.3-2.4.1 -> 2.22.1-4.1.2 i586 openSUSE-12.3-Oss openSUSE

rpm -q --changelog of both versions leads to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802975

Cheers,

Lars --

Lars, thanks for creating the bugzilla. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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