[opensuse-factory] Tumbleweed = crawl-weed?
Pardon the subject, but one can read that I am not very impressed by Tumbleweed having packages from beginning of this year until sometime July/August and promote them as being new. Example: GCC-4.9.0 RC2?? We have 4.9.2 and nasm 2.10.x while 2.11.06 is already out for some time?? I switched to Tumbleweed because it should hold newer packages then the already many outdated ones in 13.2. Well, some are newer, many are not really new. I switched also because I am using LFS (Linux From Scratch) and found no problems with packages newer then most in any of the current opensuse distributions. Can we expect really newer packages - not lagging more then say a month - or just forget about Tumbleweed as being cutting-edge? Regards, Frans. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
El 29/11/14 a las 14:42, Frans de Boer escribió:
Pardon the subject, but one can read that I am not very impressed by Tumbleweed having packages from beginning of this year until sometime July/August and promote them as being new. Example: GCC-4.9.0 RC2?? We have 4.9.2 and nasm 2.10.x while 2.11.06 is already out for some time??
The default compiler has not been switched yet, please ask compiler people for the rationale on why that is. My poorly informed opinion is that we should just wait for GCC 5.
Can we expect really newer packages - not lagging more then say a month - or just forget about Tumbleweed as being cutting-edge?
The new factory release process is not as fast as one may wish, this is almost certainly related to the available manpower. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 03:22:54PM -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 29/11/14 a las 14:42, Frans de Boer escribió:
Pardon the subject, but one can read that I am not very impressed by Tumbleweed having packages from beginning of this year until sometime July/August and promote them as being new. Example: GCC-4.9.0 RC2?? We have 4.9.2 and nasm 2.10.x while 2.11.06 is already out for some time??
The default compiler has not been switched yet, please ask compiler people for the rationale on why that is. My poorly informed opinion is that we should just wait for GCC 5.
A new compiler while being nice has not much of a user impact. It will come, but there is no hurry.
Can we expect really newer packages - not lagging more then say a month - or just forget about Tumbleweed as being cutting-edge?
The new factory release process is not as fast as one may wish, this is almost certainly related to the available manpower.
The newness is mostly visible in always fresh desktops (GNOME/KDE) for instance. If you think something is stale, feel free to help us ... either update it yourself, or requesting an update from the package maintainer, because he/she just overlooked the new version. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 29.11.2014 19:28, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 03:22:54PM -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 29/11/14 a las 14:42, Frans de Boer escribió:
Pardon the subject, but one can read that I am not very impressed by Tumbleweed having packages from beginning of this year until sometime July/August and promote them as being new. Example: GCC-4.9.0 RC2?? We have 4.9.2 and nasm 2.10.x while 2.11.06 is already out for some time??
The default compiler has not been switched yet, please ask compiler people for the rationale on why that is. My poorly informed opinion is that we should just wait for GCC 5.
A new compiler while being nice has not much of a user impact. It will come, but there is no hurry.
Especially if it's not building the distribution correctly: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/openSUSE:Factory:Staging:Gcc49
Can we expect really newer packages - not lagging more then say a month - or just forget about Tumbleweed as being cutting-edge?
The new factory release process is not as fast as one may wish, this is almost certainly related to the available manpower.
The newness is mostly visible in always fresh desktops (GNOME/KDE) for instance.
If you think something is stale, feel free to help us ... either update it yourself, or requesting an update from the package maintainer, because he/she just overlooked the new version.
gcc49 is actually fresh in devel:gcc, but not submitted - no idea why, you need to ask the maintainer ;( Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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Cristian Rodríguez -
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Stephan Kulow