[opensuse-factory] Please include smbmount in 11.0 kernel

T.T.J. Pleizier

3 Jun 2008 3 Jun '08

12:20

Dear all, Sorry to be late, but just recently installed 10.3 and I found that smbmount had been left out from the kernel. I used to work with 10.1 which had smbmount included, but I wasn't able to mount my net-drive with 10.3 due to the lack of smbmount in the kernel. Since my net-drive doesn't mount with cifs (all kinds of errors) but does mount with smbfs, I wished Suse 11.0 would support smbfs again (like with 10.1). Thanks for the great product, looking forward to the releas of 11.0! Theo Pleizier The Netherlands --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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Kevin Dupuy

3 Jun 3 Jun

22:08

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 13:20 +0100, T.T.J. Pleizier wrote:

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Dear all,

Sorry to be late, but just recently installed 10.3 and I found that smbmount had been left out from the kernel.

I used to work with 10.1 which had smbmount included, but I wasn't able to mount my net-drive with 10.3 due to the lack of smbmount in the kernel. Since my net-drive doesn't mount with cifs (all kinds of errors) but does mount with smbfs, I wished Suse 11.0 would support smbfs again (like with 10.1).

Thanks for the great product, looking forward to the releas of 11.0!

Theo Pleizier The Netherlands

It's almost certainly too late to make a major change to the 11.0 kernel. For 11.1 it could be considered. -- Kevin "Yo" Dupuy Public Mail Yo.media: 225-590-5961 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Putrycz, Erik

22:14

What about the smb fuse file system? I thought it was the replacement of smbmount... Erik.

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On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 13:20 +0100, T.T.J. Pleizier wrote:

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Dear all,

Sorry to be late, but just recently installed 10.3 and I found that smbmount had been left out from the kernel.

I used to work with 10.1 which had smbmount included, but I wasn't able to mount my net-drive with 10.3 due to the lack of smbmount in the kernel. Since my net-drive doesn't mount with cifs (all kinds of errors) but does mount with smbfs, I wished Suse 11.0 would support smbfs again (like with 10.1).

Thanks for the great product, looking forward to the releas of 11.0!

Theo Pleizier The Netherlands

It's almost certainly too late to make a major change to the 11.0 kernel. For 11.1 it could be considered. -- Kevin "Yo" Dupuy Public Mail Yo.media: 225-590-5961

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Marcus Meissner

22:28

On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 05:08:29PM -0500, Kevin Dupuy wrote:

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On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 13:20 +0100, T.T.J. Pleizier wrote:

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Dear all,

Sorry to be late, but just recently installed 10.3 and I found that smbmount had been left out from the kernel.

I used to work with 10.1 which had smbmount included, but I wasn't able to mount my net-drive with 10.3 due to the lack of smbmount in the kernel. Since my net-drive doesn't mount with cifs (all kinds of errors) but does mount with smbfs, I wished Suse 11.0 would support smbfs again (like with 10.1).

Thanks for the great product, looking forward to the releas of 11.0!

Theo Pleizier The Netherlands

It's almost certainly too late to make a major change to the 11.0 kernel. For 11.1 it could be considered.

smbfs was dropped ... and will not come back. It has been replaced by cifs in the kernel. However, it is totally unrelated to the userland smbmount program I think. Ciao, Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Kevin Dupuy

4 Jun 4 Jun

03:00

On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 00:28 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 05:08:29PM -0500, Kevin Dupuy wrote:

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On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 13:20 +0100, T.T.J. Pleizier wrote:

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Dear all,

Sorry to be late, but just recently installed 10.3 and I found that smbmount had been left out from the kernel.

I used to work with 10.1 which had smbmount included, but I wasn't able to mount my net-drive with 10.3 due to the lack of smbmount in the kernel. Since my net-drive doesn't mount with cifs (all kinds of errors) but does mount with smbfs, I wished Suse 11.0 would support smbfs again (like with 10.1).

Thanks for the great product, looking forward to the releas of 11.0!

Theo Pleizier The Netherlands

It's almost certainly too late to make a major change to the 11.0 kernel. For 11.1 it could be considered.

smbfs was dropped ... and will not come back. It has been replaced by cifs in the kernel.

However, it is totally unrelated to the userland smbmount program I think.

Ciao, Marcus

Ah. Ok, well then scratch that whole "could be considered" thing ;-) -- Kevin "Yo" Dupuy Public Mail Yo.media: 225-590-5961 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Jörg von Frantzius

08:10

Just to have mentioned it, with my opensuse 10.3 I have huge problems with cifs and OpenOffice files on smb shares as well, while colleagues using smbfs (and different distros) simply don't have these problems *at all*. I already spent considerable time working around the problem and trying to find out what exactly the problem is, searching for bug reports etc. That's very annoying because I have this trouble simply because it was decided for opensuse to drop smbfs in favor of cifs, even though cifs doesn't seem to be ready for prime-time. Regards, Jörg Marcus Meissner schrieb:

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On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 05:08:29PM -0500, Kevin Dupuy wrote:

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On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 13:20 +0100, T.T.J. Pleizier wrote:

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Dear all,

Sorry to be late, but just recently installed 10.3 and I found that smbmount had been left out from the kernel.

I used to work with 10.1 which had smbmount included, but I wasn't able to mount my net-drive with 10.3 due to the lack of smbmount in the kernel. Since my net-drive doesn't mount with cifs (all kinds of errors) but does mount with smbfs, I wished Suse 11.0 would support smbfs again (like with 10.1).

Thanks for the great product, looking forward to the releas of 11.0!

Theo Pleizier The Netherlands

It's almost certainly too late to make a major change to the 11.0 kernel. For 11.1 it could be considered.

smbfs was dropped ... and will not come back. It has been replaced by cifs in the kernel.

However, it is totally unrelated to the userland smbmount program I think.

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Philipp Thomas

08:59

On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 10:10:23 +0200, Jörg von Frantzius wrote:

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That's very annoying because I have this trouble simply because it was decided for opensuse to drop smbfs in favor of cifs, even though cifs doesn't seem to be ready for prime-time.

And you have reported it us in https://bugzilla.novell.com ? We can only fix those bugs that we know of. Philipp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Jörg von Frantzius

09:19

Philipp Thomas schrieb:

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On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 10:10:23 +0200, Jörg von Frantzius wrote:

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That's very annoying because I have this trouble simply because it was decided for opensuse to drop smbfs in favor of cifs, even though cifs doesn't seem to be ready for prime-time.

And you have reported it us in https://bugzilla.novell.com ? We can only fix those bugs that we know of.

The symptoms are very similar to http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=65002 Do you want me to open a bug at novell that points to the bug in openoffice?

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Lars Müller

12:29

On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 11:19:13AM +0200, Jörg von Frantzius wrote: [ 8< ]

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The symptoms are very similar to http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=65002 Do you want me to open a bug at novell that points to the bug in openoffice?

A bug at b.n.c is required to get the attention of the cifs kernel developer at SUSE. And it's ok only to add a pointer to a different bug tracking system. A good summary plus some extra words will make it easier too. Unluckily smbfs is unmaintained. That had been the reason to drop the kernel module and the helper applications from SUSE based products and to focus on cifs instead as it is well maintained and under continuous development. The user space applications got removed a bit later upstream too. Cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TINA Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany

Jörg von Frantzius

9 Jun 9 Jun

10:31

OK I filed https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398450 Did I assign the right component "Samba"? Regards, Jörg Lars Müller schrieb:

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On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 11:19:13AM +0200, Jörg von Frantzius wrote: [ 8< ]

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The symptoms are very similar to http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=65002 Do you want me to open a bug at novell that points to the bug in openoffice?

A bug at b.n.c is required to get the attention of the cifs kernel developer at SUSE. And it's ok only to add a pointer to a different bug tracking system. A good summary plus some extra words will make it easier too.

Unluckily smbfs is unmaintained. That had been the reason to drop the kernel module and the helper applications from SUSE based products and to focus on cifs instead as it is well maintained and under continuous development. The user space applications got removed a bit later upstream too.

Cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TINA

Lars

Lars Müller

22:05

On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 12:31:40PM +0200, Jörg von Frantzius wrote:

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OK I filed https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398450

Did I assign the right component "Samba"?

Yes. Thanks! Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany

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