OK, why SUSE selected KVM as a default hypervisor? Any problem with other hypervisors? Why the Virtualization part name is "KVM Virtualization Host and Tools" ? Why not "Xen Virtualization Host and Tools" or "Virtualization Host and Tools"? Is it not clear? On Wednesday, June 19, 2019, 6:24:47 PM UTC, Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk@suse.de> wrote: On Wed, Jun 19, Jason Long wrote:

Thanks, but I guess SUSE is not an independent company and is under Red Hat control.

You should really stop this crap. It's quite simple to find out who is owned by whom.

You selected a type-2 hypervisor because of popularity? OK, look at other type-2 hypervisors and you will find better options. SUSE never put Xen on installation DVD because of Red Hat.

You have absolut no clue about what you are speaking, so I guess you did never look at a SUSE product. What you are writing are pure lies quite easily to prove: download any SLES version and look what is on the DVD.   Thorsten

Look at : https://royal.pingdom.com/linux-popularity-across-the-globe/ -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 6/19/19, Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk@suse.de> wrote:

  Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Why OpenSUSE removed Xen from the setup?   To: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org   Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2019, 7:04 AM

  On Wed, Jun 19, Jason Long wrote:

  > Hello.   > I created a   post in OpenSUSE forum(https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/536329-OpenSUSE-forgot-Xen-Virtua...)   and I want to know why SUSE preferred a type-2 hypervisor   (KVM) over a type-1 hypervisor (Xen).

  You are making a big   mistake:

  openSUSE !=   SUSE

  openSUSE is a   community project, and the result is what the community   is deciding and doing. And the community is   everybody who submits   changes, fixes and   packages.

  If you install a   SUSE Linux Enterprise Server (so a SUSE product, not   an openSUSE product), you can choose between   XEN and KVM during installation.   So your   claim about SUSE and XEN is wrong.

  Else the openSUSE Community did wrote in the   forum already, that your   claim is wrong even   for openSUSE and that you are looking at the wrong   places.   And if you look at the   number of users of XEN and KVM, it's pretty clear   why KVM is on the DVD and not XEN. It's the   reality of how many people   are using   something.

    Thorsten

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On Thursday, June 20, 2019, 3:35:40 PM GMT+4:30, Simon Lees <sflees@suse.de> wrote: On 20/06/2019 20:24, hack3rcon@yahoo.com wrote:

OK, why SUSE selected KVM as a default hypervisor? Any problem with other hypervisors? Why the Virtualization part name is "KVM Virtualization Host and Tools" ? Why not "Xen Virtualization Host and Tools" or "Virtualization Host and Tools"? Is it not clear?

If you use the net install or add the full repo's with the extra options you will see both "KVM Virtualization Host and Tools" and "Xen Virtualization Host and Tools". One is obviously for installing KVM and the other for installing Xen. Most sane people don't want both hence no "Virtualization Host and Tools" -- Simon Lees (Simotek)                            http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team                          keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux                          Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 10:54 +0000, hack3rcon@yahoo.com wrote:

OK, why SUSE selected KVM as a default hypervisor? Any problem with other hypervisors? Why the Virtualization part name is "KVM Virtualization Host and Tools" ? Why not "Xen Virtualization Host and Tools" or "Virtualization Host and Tools"? Is it not clear?

If you care about SUSE products, you have to talk to a SUSE sales rep. This is the openSUSE Factory mailing list - here we develop the openSUSE Products (openSUSE Tumbleweed and openSUSE Leap) - granted, there is some overlap when it comes to the packages, but the media layout is completely decoupled and different release managers assigned. We only share source packages. As for the Tumbleweed DVD (where I am the designated release manager, so I can only speak about that product) - I only have limited space to put stuff on the DVD. This does not mean that the DVD picked packages are (much) favored over the rest of the tree (there is to some degree a higher scrutinity / observance of issues for things picked on the DVD, but the openQA tests are not strictly limited to the DVD - other things can be and are also tested) As to why I'd always favor qemu/kvm over xen on the openSUSE Tumbleweed DVD is the reach of users it has: more users are likely to be interested in KVM setups, as they are typically 'easier' to setup, as they behave much like a normal computer (boot from dvd/usb support, no special tricks/tweaks needed). Other than that, the content of the DVD is at any time open for discussion. Cheers Dominique