[opensuse-factory] dist meeting 2006-08-31: Minutes
Here're my minutes from the last meeting. PolicyKit / ResMgr ================== PolicyKit is a control instance that can be asked before performing an action and therefore can restrict what a user can do on a desktop. It's a system wide daemon, currently running as root. Problems: * Another daemon * possible code quality * overlaps in parts with resmgr Resmgr grants access via ACL to logged in users which is something that PolicyKit does not handle. The consensus was that the features of PolicyKit are liked. We would like to implement the features of resmgr in PolicyKit and drop resmgr so that we have only one daemon running. This needs further evaluation. In 10.2 only hal mounter will use PolicyKit. We plan to have the integration with resmgr done for 10.3. Cryptofs ======== We currently use crypto-loop to setup crypt-partitions. It has been proposed to use the new dm-cryptoloop with LUKS extensions. Since this needs changes in YaST and the boot scripts, it might not be doable for 10.2. We'll investigate this now. Removing Build Dependencies =========================== The minimal set of packages to bootstrap the by default added packages (those that will be added if BuildRequires is empty) consists of 209 packages. The added packages contain some convenience packages like vim and strace for debugging. We discussed the goal to identify a small set of core packages for bootstrapping or for a core distribution. The discussion will continue on mailing lists, the people at the meeting did not see that any directly needed action. GNOME 2.16 and /usr =================== Currently factory has three bugs, the major one is a broken metacity which has just been fixed. The goal is to get everything this until 2006-09-01 into the distribution so that we can do basic tests and then have Alpha4 with GNOME 2.15.92. Once GNOME 2.16 is working properly, the team plans to move from /opt/gnome to /use. This is done in separate steps to make debugging easier. This move has to be done by the end of september - in time for Alpha5. If not, it will be done for 10.3. GNOME will use the %configure and %install rpm macros. No objections from anybody. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
2006/9/4, Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.de>:
Here're my minutes from the last meeting.
PolicyKit / ResMgr ==================
PolicyKit is a control instance that can be asked before performing an action and therefore can restrict what a user can do on a desktop. It's a system wide daemon, currently running as root.
Problems: * Another daemon * possible code quality * overlaps in parts with resmgr
Resmgr grants access via ACL to logged in users which is something that PolicyKit does not handle.
The consensus was that the features of PolicyKit are liked. We would like to implement the features of resmgr in PolicyKit and drop resmgr so that we have only one daemon running. This needs further evaluation.
In 10.2 only hal mounter will use PolicyKit. We plan to have the integration with resmgr done for 10.3.
Cryptofs ========
We currently use crypto-loop to setup crypt-partitions. It has been proposed to use the new dm-cryptoloop with LUKS extensions. Since this needs changes in YaST and the boot scripts, it might not be doable for 10.2. We'll investigate this now.
Removing Build Dependencies ===========================
The minimal set of packages to bootstrap the by default added packages (those that will be added if BuildRequires is empty) consists of 209 packages. The added packages contain some convenience packages like vim and strace for debugging.
We discussed the goal to identify a small set of core packages for bootstrapping or for a core distribution. The discussion will continue on mailing lists, the people at the meeting did not see that any directly needed action.
GNOME 2.16 and /usr ===================
Currently factory has three bugs, the major one is a broken metacity which has just been fixed. The goal is to get everything this until 2006-09-01 into the distribution so that we can do basic tests and then have Alpha4 with GNOME 2.15.92.
Once GNOME 2.16 is working properly, the team plans to move from /opt/gnome to /use. This is done in separate steps to make debugging easier.
"/use" complains Posix standar? Cheers --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hello, * Juan Erbes <jerbes@gmail.com> [2006-09-04 13:56]:
"/use" complains Posix standar?
POSIX? I think POSIX doesn't say anything about file hierarchy. It's the FHS (File Hierarchy Standard). Regards, Bernhard -- Anstiftung zur Beihilfe und Beihilfe zur Anstiftung oder zur Beihilfe ist Beihilfe zur Haupttat. (BGH NStZ 96, 562)
Bernhard Walle wrote:
Hello,
* Juan Erbes <jerbes@gmail.com> [2006-09-04 13:56]:
"/use" complains Posix standar?
complies
POSIX? I think POSIX doesn't say anything about file hierarchy. It's the FHS (File Hierarchy Standard).
Regards, Bernhard
The keyword is "/use" which is typo of "/usr". I guess it was Juan's remark. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
"Juan Erbes" <jerbes@gmail.com> writes:
Once GNOME 2.16 is working properly, the team plans to move from /opt/gnome to /use. This is done in separate steps to make debugging easier.
"/use" complains Posix standar?
Typo: /usr - this is in accordance with the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Do You will to continue supporting KDE? Cheers 2006/9/4, Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.de>:
Here're my minutes from the last meeting.
PolicyKit / ResMgr ==================
PolicyKit is a control instance that can be asked before performing an action and therefore can restrict what a user can do on a desktop. It's a system wide daemon, currently running as root.
Problems: * Another daemon * possible code quality * overlaps in parts with resmgr
Resmgr grants access via ACL to logged in users which is something that PolicyKit does not handle.
The consensus was that the features of PolicyKit are liked. We would like to implement the features of resmgr in PolicyKit and drop resmgr so that we have only one daemon running. This needs further evaluation.
In 10.2 only hal mounter will use PolicyKit. We plan to have the integration with resmgr done for 10.3.
Cryptofs ========
We currently use crypto-loop to setup crypt-partitions. It has been proposed to use the new dm-cryptoloop with LUKS extensions. Since this needs changes in YaST and the boot scripts, it might not be doable for 10.2. We'll investigate this now.
Removing Build Dependencies ===========================
The minimal set of packages to bootstrap the by default added packages (those that will be added if BuildRequires is empty) consists of 209 packages. The added packages contain some convenience packages like vim and strace for debugging.
We discussed the goal to identify a small set of core packages for bootstrapping or for a core distribution. The discussion will continue on mailing lists, the people at the meeting did not see that any directly needed action.
GNOME 2.16 and /usr ===================
Currently factory has three bugs, the major one is a broken metacity which has just been fixed. The goal is to get everything this until 2006-09-01 into the distribution so that we can do basic tests and then have Alpha4 with GNOME 2.15.92.
Once GNOME 2.16 is working properly, the team plans to move from /opt/gnome to /use. This is done in separate steps to make debugging easier. This move has to be done by the end of september - in time for Alpha5. If not, it will be done for 10.3.
GNOME will use the %configure and %install rpm macros.
No objections from anybody.
Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
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"Juan Erbes" <jerbes@gmail.com> writes:
Do You will to continue supporting KDE?
Yes. Why did you ask in this context? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
2006/9/4, Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.de>:
"Juan Erbes" <jerbes@gmail.com> writes:
Do You will to continue supporting KDE?
Yes. Why did you ask in this context?
I asked in this context, because I do'nt see any mention about kde. I'm sorry, because my english is so poor! Cheers --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hello, * Juan Erbes <jerbes@gmail.com> [2006-09-05 01:09]:
2006/9/4, Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.de>:
"Juan Erbes" <jerbes@gmail.com> writes:
Do You will to continue supporting KDE?
Yes. Why did you ask in this context?
I asked in this context, because I do'nt see any mention about kde. I'm sorry, because my english is so poor!
IMO, it's a bit annoying: if SUSE says anything about GNOME, somebody stands up and says "see, KDE support will be stopped". Must every piece of software developed twice, once for GNOME and once for KDE? Regards, Bernhard -- Lernen ohne zu denken, ist eitel, denken, ohne zu lernen, gefährlich. -- Konfuzius
"Juan Erbes" <jerbes@gmail.com> writes:
2006/9/4, Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.de>:
"Juan Erbes" <jerbes@gmail.com> writes:
Do You will to continue supporting KDE?
Yes. Why did you ask in this context?
I asked in this context, because I do'nt see any mention about kde.
There was no need to discuss anything related to KDE in that meeting. We only discuss specific topics as they arise. We do support both and continue working on both.
I'm sorry, because my english is so poor!
No problem - most of us are not native speakers, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
participants (4)
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Andreas Jaeger -
Bernhard Walle -
Juan Erbes -
Rajko M