All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting The meeting is hosted here https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting ## Attendees bittin, DimStar,GuillaumeG, ddemaio, Sarah, maxlin, Wolfgang, rbrown, Adrian, lkocman ## Leap Leap 15.5 RC build should be ready by this Thursday Ongoing cleanup of https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issues Leap Micro 5.4 RC this week. (SLE Micro 5.4 GM happened) https://news.opensuse.org/2023/03/28/leapmicro-54-beta-hands-on/ There I think my marketing capacity is a driver. We will have an issue with IPRQ for the GA itself (eta two weeks from RC). 15.4 image respin based on QU2 - TBD Leap 16.0 followup discussion in thread started by Richard https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/G... related: https://www.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comments/12qxn7d/alp_current_status_a_star... Continuation on oSCS2023 "Leap 16.0 planning" and related Grassy Knoll **weblate-admin situation** lkocman has admin permissions. Will followup with wiki docs on how to setup a new release in weblate. desktop-files translation is still problematic part (the workflow part) ## openSUSE Tumbleweed openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: 74 failed 3 unresolvable (one week ago: 73 / 3) https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz * Ruby 3.1 and all ruby3.1- rubygems have been removed from Tumbleweed * KDE Gear 23.04.0 shipped * Linux kernel 6.3 currently staged - some 'weird' build fails showing up * Boost 1.82 - breaking libzypp; fix in progress * Staging:C: openssl 3.1 incoming; a few packages failing to build Dominique: seems like factory would be interested in the even updates of python, not the odd ones. python3.12 has to be released first :-) ## Richard (MicroOS) System Updates notifications should (finally) be working properly by default now. Anyone with custom workarounds in /etc should remove them. The MicroOS Desktop Plasma/KDE is stil in desperate need of help else could be at risk of being dropped (again) https://microos.opensuse.org/blog/2023-04-02-state-of-microOS-Desktop-Plasma... lkocman: Big appraisal for SUSE (and Richard) on the Linux Application Summit (LAS) 2023 regarding the flatpak / flathub adoption in MicroOS. Recordings from individual days/rooms are slowly popping up on youtube.com ## Richard (ALP Architecture) Summarised discussions with the openSUSE community about building 'whatever replaces Leap' in a way that is aligned with SUSE's new ALP Products https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/C... The general direction seems to be towards building a Leap-like product (Desktops, not immutable, etc) based on ALP (and Tumbleweed?) Sources The biggest challenges facing this plan all revolve around having sufficient contributions, as (compared to Leap) this concept will need a lot more work as will have less already done by SUSE lkocman: I'm not even sure if interlock would be possible, like if we will get any actual 0.X numbers. Would very much appreciate folk from Maintenance, QA, Desktop Teams, and ideally also most devel Projects speaking up about how much they will support this effort, what challenges they see, what they'd like to see changed to make it more viable for them, etc. lkocman: additionally docs team (RN) and legal (IPRQ, EULA, cavil), I can personally live without FTE from e.g. SUSE Branding team (currently 0.2FTE). rbrown: docs - sure, but we need to know the scope of the Project first, so they can wait. Legal also - legal needs are likely to be much smaller if there is little/no migration between "Leap 16" and any SUSE Product ## Max Leap 15.5(build stats in Backports: 1 unresolvables, 7 fails. Prehaps thoese failing package will not be fixed before GA, I've tested them that they're installable and executable though) * Fixed the python2 script interpreter issue * More uninstallable package are removed from ftp-tree according to the repodata installcheck result * Started RC work ** The next snapshot would've SLE15 SP5 RC2 changes included ** Beta mark is removed from the product and openqa medium config ** Update 15.5 server list to d.o.o on github https://github.com/openSUSE/download.o.o/pull/43, but it needs https://opensuse-community.org/openSUSE_Leap_155_Community_Additional.xml as https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/113959 described, I'm not sure who is maintain that file ** Waiting for doc team to upload a 15.5 release-notes rpm to doc.o.o * Other than the critical fix or the ship-stopper fix, I'll not check- in upcoming SR, and ask resubmit it to update I'll reach out to commnity additional folks, we might want to add openh264 there too (would help existing installations). ## Guillaume - Arm Tumbleweed: * Rolling again Leap: * 15.5 aarch64: Needs update of dtc package (for libkrun) - https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1210812 (from SLES) * 15.5 armv7: no blocker ALP: * shim not signed by MS (at least for aarch64, not sure for x86_64) - jsc#ARM-100 WSL: * Works with x86 emulator since appx installer is x86-64, but this is not really an issue since arm64 Win11 includes x86 emulator by default. Team is ok to publish it on Microsoft store anyway, but this would require some testing in openQA which is currently not possible (due to technical issues and MS licensing issues) https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/126083. Steps documented on the wiki to install the appx from download.o.o: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:WSL#With_Appx_from_openSUSE_download_server ## Sarah - s390x Tumbleweed * release is rolling Leap: * working * waitingSubmissisions with fixes for gtkd and gnu-cobol: https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/1072852 https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/1078385 * mainframe build workers are overloaded * Written statement and approved by Co Chair Elizabeth for the Linux Distributions Working Group for the article regarding AlmaLinux and openQA usage ## Doug * Google Summer of Code * Ranking of projects complete (deadline April 27) * Aligning funding to Geeko Foundation * Looking at possibility to send a mentor to GSoC Mentorship Summit * oSC23 * 133 registered * T-Shirts printing this week T-Shirts: first comes first serves basis. * openSUSE.Asia Summit * No update * Will send Leap 15.5 release annoucement to translation after Thursday's meeting * Meeting to reach agreement/arrangements for Fastly CDN sponsoring * Welcome letter to SUSE's new CEO from board * AlmaLinux using and contributing to openQA article with OMP * - Make openQA find qemu-kvm on RHEL based system (minor patch, already merged: https://github.com/os-autoinst/os-autoinst/pull/2268) * Update qemu-kvm options a little to make them compatible with RHEL's qemu-kvm build (to be contributed) * Many updates to make qemu backend work with s390x (to be contributed) * More TSP requests * AI topics * Provided feedback using for translations * geeko.port0.org ## Dirk No update Improved the CDN setup a bit further (https working now, caching issues fixed) and in progress of collecting in put from early testers. It looks like we have more issues to resolve. Did a strategic benchmarking exercise with various zypper options and a huge part of the slowness appears to be related to the choices of zypper options. In evaluation with zypper folks. A > factor 5 improvement even for european is possible over current setup. Other locations could be better. Sarah can provide mainframe acess - he has received VM from Sarah * also todo announce tumbleweed maintainer policy draft currently working on testing those in a private staging test project * Started ALP:RISCV:* builds in the new build setup Biggest speedup can be observed by switching zlib to zlib-ng, so looked into fixing the build failures caused by switching to zlibo-ng- compat ## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling * still some packages are missing dependencies in Backports and Subpackages for SLE-15-SP5, working on getting them into next RC lkocman: any immediate actions that we need to address for Package HUB for SLES 15 SP6? * we might discuss package dependencies to other modules or paid extensions ## Maintenance team (Marcus or Maurizio (m4u)) Leap Micro 5.4 maint-setup is active. Leap 15.5 setup is done, SLE export channel is still being refreshed occasionaly. Key rotation: openSUSE:Leap:15.5 is done, Backports are bit more challenging because of SLES. Wolfgang: we're injecting the key. Marcus we probably want to do only Backports 15 SP5 for now. Marcus is working also on the SLES side, the update of package with the new key was released last week, it's just not activated yet, but it will be already trusted by Leap 15.5 systems. Leap 15.4 is working Leap Micro 5.3 is working Leap Micro 5.4 testing is now passing as well Leap 16.0 - we should revisit the update/sle repo as the current setup not exactly mirror friendly. Solutions could be dropping not so popular architectures or split repositories per architecture. securebootkey for SLES was rotated, it should be autotrusted and not noticeable. This will be in QU3, QU2 is already done. lkocman: 15.3 EOL could lead to stopping our physical Source DVD effort, as it seems we will not produce. As this was the last release which you could still get on a physical media. Lkocman: anything against decomissioning it? Not a single valid request since I've joined SUSE. We did receive only requests for binary install media which are not subject to ^. We do not plan to offer this for any new releases. ## Adrian - OBS No updates DimStar pointed Adrian to issue handled by Marco - unresolvables due to python3.8 drop. So far it seems like a scheduler issue. Just wait for fix, local builds are not affected. ## Open Floor